So far we have Monahan who isn't quite as good, but comparable to Toews
Gaudreau who isn't quite as good, but comparable to Kane
Now Jokipakka who isn't as good, but comparable to hjalmarsson?
Does the idea of being not nearly as good, but comparable to Chicago really excite people?
You need to be more consistent with your terminology. Big difference between the two statements.
Does it excite me that we have younger players who aren't quite as good as players who were big parts of their 3 stanley cup wins? You bet your dumb ass it does.
You need to be more consistent with your terminology. Big difference between the two statements.
Does it excite me that we have younger players who aren't quite as good as players who were big parts of their 3 stanley cup wins? You bet your dumb ass it does.
One statement is talking about Monahan and one statement is about the Flames as a team. You bet your dumb ass there is a big difference between the two.
I'd like a few more than 7 games of viewing to see exactly what the team has. He's definitely a NHL level defenseman who can play in the top 6. But right now he looks a lot more third pairing, than 2nd pairing. He's still young by NHL defense standards, so there is time for him to grow. If he can be a big bodied #4 or 5 who can play a bit on the walls than he fills a void in the organization. Between Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton there is a good assortment of puck movers. Others like Kylington and Anderson look to be of that ilk. So there does look to be a shortage of bigger bodies like `Kevin' who can muck it up on the walls.
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One statement is talking about Monahan and one statement is about the Flames as a team. You bet your dumb ass there is a big difference between the two.
Well you were bitching about how our players are getting compared to Chicago's players. Where does the team fit into the discussion? Nowhere, but whatever fits your narrative.
And it's not just us Flames fans who make these comparisons. It's the media, coaches, other fans, hell even Chicago fans are flattered that other teams are trying to build themselves up in a similar fashion as their team.
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Well you were bitching about how our players are getting compared to Chicago's players. Where does the team fit into the discussion? Nowhere, but whatever fits your narrative.
And it's not just us Flames fans who make these comparisons. It's the media, coaches, other fans, hell even Chicago fans are flattered that other teams are trying to build themselves up in a similar fashion as their team.
I never heard the media, coaches or other fans compare Jokipakka to Hjarmarlson.
I'd imagine a team fits into the discussion as hockey is a team sport, not an individuals.
You're doing great at name calling and trying to be demeaning, maybe work on your reading comprehension.
I never heard the media, coaches or other fans compare Jokipakka to Hjarmarlson.
I'd imagine a team fits into the discussion as hockey is a team sport, not an individuals.
You're doing great at name calling and trying to be demeaning, maybe work on your reading comprehension.
Whatever, there are a billion other things going wrong that you can complain about this season. Fans comparing players to other players should be the least of your worries.
You enter a thread meant to discuss a player and then get upset when you see he's compared to a Blackhawk.
Guess what? Chicago's players are very well known by fans of other teams due to us watching so much of them in the post season. Sure we can compare him to other players who you haven't watched, but that probably won't add much value.
It's exciting to see our team slowly turning into a team with a great mix of skill and size. That's what management wants, that's what coaches want and that's how Stanley Cup winning teams are built.
If you don't find it exciting then feel free to be a grump in another thread.
Whatever, there are a billion other things going wrong that you can complain about this season. Fans comparing players to other players should be the least of your worries.
You enter a thread meant to discuss a player and then get upset when you see he's compared to a Blackhawk.
Guess what? Chicago's players are very well known by fans of other teams due to us watching so much of them in the post season. Sure we can compare him to other players who you haven't watched, but that probably won't add much value.
It's exciting to see our team slowly turning into a team with a great mix of skill and size. That's what management wants, that's what coaches want and that's how Stanley Cup winning teams are built.
If you don't find it exciting then feel free to be a grump in another thread.
I like Jokipakka and I couldn't be happier with the trade. I fail to see the constant need to compare and overhype players.
Guess what? Some people are more realistic than others.
I like Jokipakka and I couldn't be happier with the trade. I fail to see the constant need to compare and overhype players.
Guess what? Some people are more realistic than others.
What you fail to see is that we aren't saying Jokipakka is the next Hjalmarsson. Nobody has said he's going to be as good, just like how nobody says Monahan will be as good as Toew's.
But in terms of how they play the game. In terms of what their strengths and weaknesses are. In terms of the roles that they can both play for their team. They play similar styles of games and can be considered comparable in regards to the skills they possess.
If you consider that over-hyping a player then I don't know what else to say.
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I never heard the media, coaches or other fans compare Jokipakka to Hjarmarlson.
I'd imagine a team fits into the discussion as hockey is a team sport, not an individuals.
You're doing great at name calling and trying to be demeaning, maybe work on your reading comprehension.
Jokipakka just so happens to play a similar style as Hjalmarsson and that's the comparison posters here are keying in on - not in terms of skill, potential, etc. Like Monahan plays a similar style to Toews and Gaudreau with Kane, Brodie with Keith... stylistic matchups are all that is. Not direct team-to-team comparisons. We only recently got Jokipakka, but the media have been lumping Monahan with Toews as early as the draft and Gaudreau with Kane ever since the hype train took off last year.
And given their dynasty status, I sure can't blame anyone here for getting excited over comparisons between us and Chicago, even if we're "not quite as good" as them. Yet.
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I'm not worried about whether or not he's a top 4 at this point - we have him for another year at $900k or whatever it is, so let's let him play a full year and see what we've got.
Even if all he ever is is a 5/6, that's still a great asset. He has good size, plays physical, moves the puck well - it's all good.
But he's only 24, so there's still lots of room for growth.
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