[News] Mason Raymond and Brandon Prust on waivers.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Treliving admits his bad move. Good to see. Couldn't wait to get this guy off the roster. He may have to be bought out this summer.

Why?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

That's about 10.5mill. Basically all of that will be allocated to Gaudreau and Monahan's raises this summer.

The first 2.7 M goes to Gio's raise that starts next year.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Why?

Why what? Why does he have to be bought out this summer? Because he can't contribute to the team so buying him out gives us more cap space.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/buyout_ca.../mason_raymond

Gives us 2.1 million more cap space to use next year.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Why what? Why does he have to be bought out this summer? Because he can't contribute to the team so buying him out gives us more cap space.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/buyout_ca.../mason_raymond

Gives us 2 million more cap space to use next year.

Would prefer not to be paying Raymond's salary until 2019 unless we are sure we have a solid replacement for Jones, or at least something for Bollig. Until then, I think the better course of action is to let him stay, and keep his salary cap space reserved for Bennett's contract.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Would prefer not to be paying Raymond's salary until 2019 unless we are sure we have a solid replacement for Jones, or at least something for Bollig. Until then, I think the better course of action is to let him stay, and keep his salary cap space reserved for Bennett's contract.

2018. You may not have the buyout date set correctly.

Raymond literally cannot contribute to our lineup. Not good enough enough for the top two lines, not gritty and physical enough for the bottom two. He is literally wasting a roster spot.

The cap space would contribute more than Raymond would. We'd save 2 million next year but lose 1 million the year after.

Maybe they'll just bury him in the minors. Either way can't see him on the roster next fall.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

2018. You may not have the buyout date set correctly.

Raymond literally cannot contribute to our lineup. Not good enough enough for the top two lines, not gritty and physical enough for the bottom two. He is literally wasting a roster spot.

The cap space would contribute more than Raymond would.

Not sure what you mean by 2018, your own link even says the 2018-2019 season, so . . . 2019?

And I'm not sold on him being ineffective; I think he has value for a small amount of ice time when quick up-ice rushes need to be made. That said, $3 million is way too much for him. I wouldn't buy him out, but I would bank his salary space for Bennett, even if Bennett is due a year after him.

[RockOnRoberts]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Not sure what you mean by 2018, your own link even says the 2018-2019 season, so . . . 2019?

And I'm not sold on him being ineffective; I think he has value for a small amount of ice time when quick up-ice rushes need to be made. That said, $3 million is way too much for him. I wouldn't buy him out, but I would bank his salary space for Bennett, even if Bennett is due a year after him.

Buyout would be 2/3 the remaining value over double the remaining years. After this season he would have just over 3 million remaining for 1 year. So the buyout is 1/3*3mil for each of the 2016-17 and 2017-18 seasons.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Why what? Why does he have to be bought out this summer? Because he can't contribute to the team so buying him out gives us more cap space.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/buyout_ca.../mason_raymond

Gives us 2.1 million more cap space to use next year.

I'm not going to disagree with you, but remember who the president is. Brian Burke, before he hired Treliving, said the Flames won't buy out contracts. They will honour them and live with them.

You would think Burke would still hold true to that word and make Treliving honour the contract.

[Bourque's Twin]

I don't think Raymond should be bought out, because the Flames will be stuck with some of his salary for more years, years in which cap space will be tighter. He only has 1 year after this year and I don't think the Flames will be super close to the cap. $16 million comes off the books with Jones, Hudler, Hiller, and Ramo. Johnny and Monny will be in the realm of $14 million. The year after is the golden year, when Wideman, Engelland, Smid, Raymond, and Bollig say goodbye. I think management has done a good job.

[SuperMatt18]

You are better off trying to retain off of Raymond's trade on a salary in the off-season then you are buying him out.

At $1.6 million for a single season his contract is palatable. Have to think the Leafs would jump on that, try to get him scoring again, and then move him at the deadline like they are trying to do with a lot of guys this year.

[Ashasx]

nm misread

[sureLoss]

nm

[dammage79]

This should be the end of MayRay as a Flame. Then again, anything can happen. Right move given that he 's been dealt every chance to perform and hasn't quite put is all together.

Sucks, I thought Raymond had more to contribute.

[hummdeedoo]

Originally Posted by SofaProfessor

Bollig has a role that he plays decently

I disagree. Would rather see Grant or some other call up.

[skudr248]

Raymond Sucks

[FurnaceFace]

More importantly...how will this play out on Real Housewives of the NHL? How much will Prust's wife cry?

[Coach]

Glad to see Raymond on the way out. I wouldn't mind picking up Prust.

[skudr248]

^ is that show still going? My friend asks...

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Glad to see Raymond on the way out. I wouldn't mind picking up Prust.

Huge no to Prust unless the Canucks want Raymond or Bollig in return

[Locke]

Good to see Prust going down. Its a shame they'll get any relief on that Albatross at all.