[News] Prust says $5,000 fine for spearing Marchand was best money he ever spent

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by blender

The fact that the Habs (think of them what you will, but one of the top teams in the league) traded Prust for what they knew to be damaged goods-Kassian says all you need to know about Prust. No surprise the Canucks are the the team that bit on him.

Prust proved to be a detriment to the team in Montreal during the Tampa series with his lack of composure and tact, followed by his whining to the media about the refereeing afterward.
To be effective in his role, Prust should be playing in a manner that makes guys like Marchand spear him. when he's the one becoming unsettled and taking stupid penalties he's nothing but a useless anchor on his team.
Maybe the NHL figured the worst punishment they could hand down was not suspending Prust and allowing Vancouver to leave him in the lineup?

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

The Canucks aren't coming back from 4-0, why would you put out your best players to risk them getting injured? If one of the Sedin's was injured in the last two minutes, the question that would be asked is why Brandon Prust wasn't on the ice instead.

The fine was the right punishment based on history, give him another fine for the comments or make him sit a game, either way.

Who do you play then if you are Boston. All your players are good, and all Canucks players are no good.

I'm quite sure Claude Julien was just rolling 4 lines. It was the 2nd night of back-to-backs and end of a long road trip. And if he double shifts the forth line he's "trying to start trouble"! And if he double shifts his top line he's "running up the score"!

Who exactly does Boston put on the ice for the 3rd period?

[dying4acup]

Edit: double post.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Who do you play then if you are Boston. All your players are good, and all Canucks players are no good.

I'm quite sure Claude Julien was just rolling 4 lines. It was the 2nd night of back-to-backs and end of a long road trip. And if he double shifts the forth line he's "trying to start trouble"! And if he double shifts his top line he's "running up the score"!

Who exactly does Boston put on the ice for the 3rd period?

Given Vancouver's sensitivity toward teams playing their 4th line (see Calgary/Vancouver Jan 18, 2014) i don't blame Julien for not doubling up on his 4th line.

[Street Pharmacist]

Much consternation about nothing here.

Getting speared in the nuts hurts. A lot. Is it worse though than the 20 slashes on the hands above the gloves every game that Johnny gets? Is it worse than a cross check? Boarding?

It's a penalty no doubt. A suspension? No fricken way unless we suspend an awful lot more things. Because it's in the mommy daddy button doesn't make it more suspendable.

Classless? Yes. Suspendable? No, a fine is more than enough

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Much consternation about nothing here.

Getting speared in the nuts hurts. A lot. Is it worse though than the 20 slashes on the hands above the gloves every game that Johnny gets? Is it worse than a cross check? Boarding?

Worse than all of the above, since it was a drive-by spearing on a player who was miles away from the puck. People aren't generally slashing Johnny's hands when he hasn't got the puck. Cross-checking, boarding, those are dirty hockey… but they're hockey. They have some purpose other than putting the opposing player in the hospital (which rarely happens).

This attack had absolutely nothing to do with playing hockey. It was assault with a weapon, period. The fact that Prust brags about having done it makes it even clearer that his sole intent was to injure Marchand. As far as I'm concerned, either he can take that garbage out of his game, or the NHL can take him out of their game. Suspend him until it gets through his thick skull that this was not a thing to be proud of.

What kind of player Marchand is doesn't matter. Remember when Canuck fans were defending Bertuzzi because Steve Moore was a punk who deserved a broken neck? Defending Prust because you hate his victim is no better than that.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Worse than all of the above, since it was a drive-by spearing on a player who was miles away from the puck. People aren't generally slashing Johnny's hands when he hasn't got the puck. Cross-checking, boarding, those are dirty hockey… but they're hockey. They have some purpose other than putting the opposing player in the hospital (which rarely happens).

Nobody is going to the hospital for a poke in the nuts either. Whether between the whistles or not, the intent is the same: to cause pain.

This attack had absolutely nothing to do with playing hockey. It was assault with a weapon, period. The fact that Prust brags about having done it makes it even clearer that his sole intent was to injure Marchand. As far as I'm concerned, either he can take that garbage out of his game, or the NHL can take him out of their game. Suspend him until it gets through his thick skull that this was not a thing to be proud of.

This is my point: you don't suspend players for doing classless things. You suspend them for doing extraordinary dangerous things. This want one of them. I hate the play and think he's a classless ###### for doing it. Doesn't mean he should be suspended.

What kind of player Marchand is doesn't matter. Remember when Canuck fans were defending Bertuzzi because Steve Moore was a punk who deserved a broken neck? Defending Prust because you hate his victim is no better than that.

There is a chasm of difference between what Bertuzzi did and what Prust did. A giant chasm. Huge.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Nobody is going to the hospital for a poke in the nuts either. Whether between the whistles or not, the intent is the same: to cause pain.

A poke in the nuts can actually kill you: https://news.vice.com/article/the-de...icle-squeezing

I think Prust should have gotten suspended for the away-from-the-play nature of the nut-poke, the way he circled back to Marchand and just gave him the business. A game would have been appropriate I think.

I also think he should get a game for the 'best money he ever spent' line. Or, quintuple the fine.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by driveway

A poke in the nuts can actually kill you: https://news.vice.com/article/the-de...icle-squeezing

I think Prust should have gotten suspended for the away-from-the-play nature of the nut-poke, the way he circled back to Marchand and just gave him the business. A game would have been appropriate I think.

I also think he should get a game for the 'best money he ever spent' line. Or, quintuple the fine.

Crosschecks kill. You can die from a broken wrist too. All irrelevant because no one will die from a poke in the nuts

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Crosschecks kill. You can die from a broken wrist too. All irrelevant because no one will die from a poke in the nuts

I figured the green text was implied.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by driveway

I figured the green text was implied.

You are giving me way too much credit

[Vulcan]

The way I look at the two players is that Marchand will go after any player but will rarely fight to back up his dirty play. This gets frustrating for other players especially for someone like Prust who is expected to neutralize the rats like Marchand. You retaliate and you take a penalty so Brad just goes on his merry way taking advantage of whatever he can. Someone mentioned that he tried to spear Gaudreau in the last game which typifies Brad's game.

I haven't watched Prust lately but he wasn't strictly a pug, he could play a bit (third line with the Rangers with PK duties IIRC) and he wasn't particularly dirty either.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Nobody is going to the hospital for a poke in the nuts either. Whether between the whistles or not, the intent is the same: to cause pain.

No, the intent is to cause INJURY. To remove the player from play. There is a reason why spearing, period, is against the rules. There is a reason why interference is against the rules. What the hell is the matter with you, that you feel called upon to defend someone who commits spearing combined with interference?

This is my point: you don't suspend players for doing classless things. You suspend them for doing extraordinary dangerous things. This want one of them. I hate the play and think he's a classless ###### for doing it. Doesn't mean he should be suspended.

You suspend players for deliberate attempts to injure. Are you seriously going to claim that a man cannot be injured by having his genitalia whacked with a blunt instrument?

There is a chasm of difference between what Bertuzzi did and what Prust did. A giant chasm. Huge.

Read what I wrote, please. I did not say that what Bertuzzi did was the same as what Prust did. I said that it is equally bad FOR A FAN TO DEFEND THEIR ACTIONS IN EITHER CASE.

Have you got that now, or do I need to explain it in even simpler terms?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Crosschecks kill. You can die from a broken wrist too. All irrelevant because no one will die from a poke in the nuts

Who has been killed by a crosscheck? Who has been killed by a broken wrist? Names, dates, details, or retract.

Meanwhile – yes, you can indeed die from ‘a poke in the nuts’, though it occurs quite rarely. (Citation provided in the very post you were so dismissively and flippantly replying to.) You can also suffer permanent injuries. And you can suffer injuries that will remove you from a hockey team's active roster for an extended period. You may not have noticed, but the genitalia are surrounded by bones, muscles, tendons, and all sorts of other nifty tissues that have to be in working order if you plan on doing any skating. Attacking someone in the region of the groin, believe it or not, is a pretty effective way of giving him a groin injury. Perhaps you've heard of groin injuries. Or perhaps you'd rather go on trying to laugh this off.

[calgaryblood]

The slashes and cross check Marchand gave to Gaudreau around the bench area no where near the puck was really dirty as well. Marchand is a great player but a rat.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Prust proved to be a detriment to the team in Montreal during the Tampa series with his lack of composure and tact, followed by his whining to the media about the refereeing afterward.
To be effective in his role, Prust should be playing in a manner that makes guys like Marchand spear him. when he's the one becoming unsettled and taking stupid penalties he's nothing but a useless anchor on his team.
Maybe the NHL figured the worst punishment they could hand down was not suspending Prust and allowing Vancouver to leave him in the lineup?

Prust in not a anchor when he's not playing his "role". He can actually play.

Prust in his career has out scored Backlund and they have very similar PPG over their entire career. And this season as well.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Prust in not a anchor when he's not playing his "role". He can actually play.

Prust in his career has out scored Backlund and they have very similar PPG over their entire career. And this season as well.

At one time he could play. Now he's nothing but an anchor. I guess well find out who's right this summer.

[habernac]

I'm no fan of ratface Marchand, but that's a cheap play by Prust. Glad he's not on my team anymore, he's been doing stupid crap like this for years.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Prust in not a anchor when he's not playing his "role". He can actually play.

Prust in his career has out scored Backlund and they have very similar PPG over their entire career. And this season as well.

Prust has also outscored McDavid. Prust is 5 years older than Backlund..

Prust's PPG over his career is 0.24, good for 19 points in an 82 game season. Backlund's PPG over his career is 0.42 which works out to be 34 points in an 82 game season.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

That's my point. You don't put out the Sedins down 4-0 and you don't put out one of your best players in Marchand that late in the game either up 4-0.

Prust was doing his job as well.

Marchand is a good all round player too. There's no reason you wouldn't play him over Krejci and berger on


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