Charlie Sheen is HIV positive

[Locke]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Just because someone is, or was, involved in the adult movie business doesn't mean we should just discredit anything she says. There is a good chance she's telling the truth. Just as good as Sheen is.

Whoa now! Lets not say things we cant take back....

Jenny McCarthy says hi....

[Coach]

Bree Olsen? Dayumm, Chuck.

[Northendzone]

to me there is going to be lots of he said/she said as this story plays out. obviously there will many people whose character will be questioned.

i thought i read that a couple of people opted to connect with charlie without protection after he told them that he was positive. if true that seems surprisng becasue you would think it would be a real mood killer.

as menioned previously, charlie is still a human being and a dad and i hope things work out for him and those people that he "touched"......one can only imagine how much his phone has been going off over the past few days.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Just because someone is, or was, involved in the adult movie business doesn't mean we should just discredit anything she says. There is a good chance she's telling the truth. Just as good as Sheen is.

No there isn't. So she quit the adult industry 5 years ago, shortly after her and Sheen are an item. What is she living off now if she has no job? How come other girls he was with on one night stands like Kacey Jordan knew but Olson who was in a relationship with him did not. How come his ex wife knew but Olsen did not? It doesn't add up.Sure maybe I am wrong but to me it seems the super rich guy who disclosed because he was tired of being blackmailed is likely to be the more honest one here than the unemployed adult film star.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

And Sheen is a drug addicted TV star known for ####ing anything that has a hole. He's pretty much totally unbelievable in anything he says. Not saying she's right, but you should probably not believe either of them as they both have serious issues that cannot be ignored.

Chuck Zito was on Howard Stern a year ago and Stern asked him for details of when Chuck was doing some work for Sheen which happened to be around the same time when he totally lost it with his tiger blood stuff. Zito said Olsen was repulsive. Said she was a gold digger and all about the money and says he wouldn't trust anything she says. Now that's long before this HIV thing came out and while it doesn't exonerate Sheen it does kind of paint a picture of a woman that's word isn't exactly worth a lot.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

to me there is going to be lots of he said/she said as this story plays out. obviously there will many people whose character will be questioned.

i thought i read that a couple of people opted to connect with charlie without protection after he told them that he was positive. if true that seems surprising because you would think it would be a real mood killer.

Except his doctor also advised those women how low his virus load was so as much as a mood killer it probably was, on the other hand it is very low risk for the hopeful chance they get pregnant with Sheen's child which means jackpot for them. HIV is pretty hard to contact normally. The rapper Eazy-E never spread it to anyone he slept with including his wife.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No there isn't. So she quit the adult industry 5 years ago, shortly after her and Sheen are an item. What is she living off now if she has no job? How come other girls he was with on one night stands like Kacey Jordan knew but Olson who was in a relationship with him did not. How come his ex wife knew but Olsen did not? It doesn't add up.Sure maybe I am wrong but to me it seems the super rich guy who disclosed because he was tired of being blackmailed is likely to be the more honest one here than the unemployed adult film star.

Not sure what she does for a job now, I just know she quit performing in movies 5 years ago. And I don't care if she was a porn star or not, she doesn't seem any less credible than Sheen. I don't trust either of them 100%.

[Yamer]

"Viral loads" has to be the most unfortunate adoption of terminology since rhinoplasty.

[getbak]

I have nothing to contribute to the discussion, but every time I see the thread title, I'm reminded of the South Park episode where Cartman contracts HIV and keeps saying, "I'm not just sure, I'm HIV positive."

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Apparently the other woman that lived with Sheen and Olson has said he never told her either. She said she won't sue, though.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

From TMZ.

A source directly connected with Sheen says in the last 2 years, Sheen has had at least 200 partners, so the number of women who either will sue or plan to sue will almost certainly grow exponentially.

If true.......200 in 2 years???

[Locke]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

From TMZ.



If true.......200 in 2 years???

Buy the ticket, take the ride.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

If true.......200 in 2 years???

Between those who'd sleep with Charlie Sheen just to say they slept with Charlie Sheen, and prostitutes, that number is actually lower than I would have expected.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Yamer

"Viral loads" has to be the most unfortunate adoption of terminology since rhinoplasty.

Soon to become an isis warfare term.

"ISIS is threatening to unleash viral loads upon the population."

[Erick Estrada]

Olson was on Howard Stern today said she just got tested and is HIV negative. Says they mostly used a sheepskin condoms that can prevent pregnancy but not protect against HIV. We will never truly know but after listening to the interview I tend to believe her as Sheen was pretty nuts at the time and on some self destructive trip where he probably didn't think or care about what he was doing to others.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Rathji

You get the crap beat out of you for being gay, would be my guess.

I think there's more to it than that. Depending on the city you live in, and I'd assume it's similar in most cities, the gay community is really small, so word can travel quickly and outcast people with HIV. I've also heard that there can be issues with blackmail, extortion, etc., though I'm not sure how big of an issue that actually is. I have a buddy who's done quite a bit of work in the area and he's very adamant, so I'll talk to him and see if I can track down some articles on the subject.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Of course she turned them down, she gets no money from Sheen anymore if she blows the whistle. Sheen stated he forked out over 10M to keep his secret, she probably made much more than 200k from Sheen to keep her mouth shut. Loyalty had nothing to do with it. Then as soon as Sheen gets sick of paying and comes clean all the sudden she is chomping at the bit to do an interview and didn't know? Come on...

So on one hand you blast everyone for making assumptions about Sheen and then on the other hand post the above about Olson?
On what basis are you picking and choosing who to believe? Seems arbitrary at best.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

So on one hand you blast everyone for making assumptions about Sheen and then on the other hand post the above about Olson?
On what basis are you picking and choosing who to believe? Seems arbitrary at best.

I didn't blast anyone for making assumptions about Sheen, don't put words in my mouth. I put forth an opinion on what I think is going on. I never stated it as fact or that it could not be wrong. I am simply looking at what we know and seeing what fits from my view. When Sheen and Olson were together everyone around them and in the tabloids were saying she was a gold digger. Sheen says he has paid millions to keep certain peoples mouths shut. Once Olson got with him she stopped doing adult films. Since their breakup she has not had to return to that to make a living. Maybe she has given up her drug binging party ways and can afford to do that but that is a hard lifestyle to just walk from. I am not defending what Sheen has done as far as lifestyle goes, he made his own bed and now he will pay. Hopefully he can make something positive out of it in the long run but I doubt it.

[dissentowner]

Well apparently I was wrong because it is irrelevant now. They were broken up before he was diagnosed.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/charli...lson-hiv-liar/

We're told Sheen is adamant ... he didn't KNOW he'd contracted the virus until AFTER he got back from his 20-city tour, which ended on May 3, 2011. Olson famously broke up with Charlie nearly two weeks prior to that date via text message.
Yes, it's a short time span -- but our sources say the important part is Charlie had absolutely zero knowledge he was HIV positive while with Bree.

[dissentowner]

We knew this was coming.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/charli...n-hiv-lawsuit/

At least six women have lawyered up in the last 24 hours and plan to sue Charlie Sheen for intentional infliction of emotional distress, fraud, sexual battery ... and more are on the way.

As long as none of these women are HIV positive he will be fine, they have no case against him as long as he sticks to his story. Wouldn't it be ironic though if the woman who infected him was one of the ones in the lawsuit? That could get ugly for him.