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Old 11-03-2015, 03:15 PM   #61
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It's really only 4 years to be fair. They weren't that bad when they had the minority, it's when they got the majority that they started with the omnibus bills and such that were bad.
For sure. I'd say really it was just the last two years that they started to go in a direction I didn't like. And I maintain that Canada is a better place now than it was before Harper was prime minister. But it was time for another party to take the reigns, hopefully they also do well.

People acting like they've lived in a oppressed society for the last decade is absolutely hilarious. Did I miss something?
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Socially liberal policies is really code for "I want to buy weed at Safeway."
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:18 PM   #63
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Socially liberal policies is really code for "I want to buy weed at Safeway."

If socially conservative policies are really code for "Muslims are kind of scary, right?"
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If socially conservative policies are really code for "Muslims are kind of scary, right?"
Haha, and everyone should go to prison.
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Socially liberal policies is really code for "I want to buy weed at Safeway."

You use to be able to buy it at the old Safeways in Bankview, well not at, but around.
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Hopefully you didnt put off other opportunities during this period of extreme duress.
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I can't wait for the Reefer Madness to set in. Just blaze up in city hall and at work. People will be dying by the thousands. Cancer set to spike too.

Justin gets his way. Who would have thought a snowboard teacher would want unlimited access to all the dope he wants?
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:27 PM   #68
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I'd like to see this.
http://mytoba.ca/voices/the-2015-can...tell-the-tale/

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What jumps out about the Liberal Party is the way in which it tended to do better in constituencies with larger concentrations of university graduates, suggesting the possibility that either this was a group that felt particularly attracted to the Liberals, or just more averse to the other parties.
https://theviewfromseven.files.wordp...rson-corrs.pdf

University certificate; diploma or degree
above bachelor level (Education): CON-0.00594245 LIB 0.439910781

Not much correlation either way for education and Conservative voting status. A pretty substantial correlation between education and Liberal voting though.

Conversely

No postsecondary certificate; diploma or
degree (Education): CON 0.178411878 LIB -0.08401693

A small positive correlation between no post-secondary and Conservative voting vs a slight negative correlation for Liberal.

Interestingly there is just as strong of a positive correlation for voting Con with a high school diploma as there is for Liberal and Bachelors or higher. And a slight negative for Liberals. This suggests that whatever is happening to people to make them switch from Conservative to Liberal happens at some point in post secondary.

High school diploma or equivalent
(Education): CON 0.425128072 LIB -0.03930936
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:29 PM   #69
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I can't wait for the Reefer Madness to set in. Just blaze up in city hall and at work. People will be dying by the thousands. Cancer set to spike too.

Justin gets his way. Who would have thought a snowboard teacher would want unlimited access to all the dope he wants?
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Can someone please explain the difference between a social liberal and just a plain ol' liberal to me?
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:35 PM   #71
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Can someone please explain the difference between a social liberal and just a plain ol' liberal to me?
One washes their dreads annually, the other bi-annually.
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How much more of a liberal society do you want/envision?
Just watch me...

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Do you want to walk around naked downtown in the summer time? (Actually that sounds kinda nice after I was sweating like a pig at the Stampede this year haha)
Sure, why not. I don't think there is anything offensive or immoral about nudity either. When it comes to social liberalism, I don't have many boundaries. This reminds me of the argument when the anti-gay marriage people were saying things like; "What's next... people marrying their dogs?". If people want to and it makes them feel good, then have at'er. It doesn't hurt me at all. (Not that I really think it would be an issue).

I am not a Harper hater and don't claim that he was socially oppressive, but he didn't do anything progressive either. Besides the changes to drug policies mandatory sentencing, the Liberals also want to push more green initiatives, offer more social assistance to aboriginals and address gender inequality. These were not priorities for the last government. I get that conservatives do not prioritize these things and therefore will not criticize Harper for not addressing these things, but I personally see them as priorities at this point in time.

I don't see why anyone should have to defend their political leanings. If someone is a social conservative, I am fine with that. No need to explain to me or anyone else why you feel that way.
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:44 PM   #73
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One washes their dreads annually, the other bi-annually.
Is that twice a year, or once every two years?
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This thread pretty much sums up the thoughts and feelings of my family that lives in Victoria. Strong beliefs but no substance.
There's quite a few conservatives in Victoria as well.

I have a lot of family and some friends in Calgary who think Trudeau is going to destroy Canada.
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I think Harper did an excellent job running the country. I didn't even really have to pay too much attention to him and that's what I liked. I pretty much agreed with most of his foreign policies, the economy did well, nothing crazy or embarrassing happened, no huge controversies. I really enjoyed not having to get upset at anything the last 10 years.
I liked Harper, and that's not to say I have anything against Trudeau, yet, but I hope he can run the country as quietly and efficiently as Harper did.
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His stance on refugees and Bill C-51 come to mind.

The fact that a large chunk of his campaign was based around islamophobia didn't help him either.
Islamophobia is a made up word designed to eliminate healthy dialogue (and criticism if needed) about ideology.

It doesn't exist, and the word is a dangerous form of PC.
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There's quite a few conservatives in Victoria as well.

I have a lot of family and some friends in Calgary who think Trudeau is going to destroy Canada.
It also doesn't help Trudeau that he is French and Catholic. It's a very "English" city (or "old stock" as Harper would say). There is still some legacy hatred handed down.

Plus there is the wealthy retirement demographic in Victoria. I would wager there is a correlation between number of pharmacies and number of conservative voters.
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Islamophobia is a made up word designed to eliminate healthy dialogue (and criticism if needed) about ideology.

It doesn't exist, and the word is a dangerous form of PC.
I would disagree on a fundamental level, as any healthy dialogue completely depends on those holding the conversation (rather than the bloated terminology used).

Xenophobia certainly serves the purpose well enough, but there has been a rise in Islam-specific phobia and rhetoric. Hence, 'Islamaphobia'.

Homophobia wasn't a word until there was a reason for it to exist. Namely, the backlash against the anti-homosexual cultural landscape.
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I never like what he did as Mp when I lived in the Calgary South West riding either. I didn't trust him in 2002 and everything I feared came to life.
The election is over. I suggest you "Get a life!"

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The fact that a large chunk of his campaign was based around islamophobia
I ended up voting liberal but seriously, this was such bull####, dog-whistle politics from both sides. No, his campaign had nothing to do with anti-muslim bigotry. The niqab issue may have some of that tied up in it, but it is not the basis of the issue. Also, ideally, please stop using the word "islamophobia".
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