Hathaway, Sieloff, Wotherspoon, Nakladal, Morrison to Stockton. UPD: Shore clears

[Enoch Root]

isn't Kulak still here as well?

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Since I believe that Schlemko & Shore > Engelland & Bollig I'm terrible at evaluating players? Good to know that 2 players who actually bring something to the table other than HURR DURR TOUGHNESS AND INTANGIBLES are actually bad. The last time this team had a guy who could win faceoffs in the bottom 6 it was Stephane Yelle, this is a terrible faceoff team. Shore brings something to the table that no one else can and I think he's a better fit for the 13th forward spot than Granlund, Bollig and Raymond

Just because you prefer them doesn't mean they're miles ahead of the other two. You don't have to kick down Bollig and Engelland to boost up Schlemko and Shore.

Furthermore, Shore doesn't bring something to the table no one else can. His face offs might be better, but his overall package leaves something to be desired. I may not totally disagree with you wanting Schlemko and Shore over Engelland and Bollig, but I am in no way remotely close in agreeing with your arguments.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

I explained that sometimes people get things wrong.

Yes, some more often than others. No one is perfect, but I'd trust someone who's highly recognized in the world's best hockey league over someone who thought Schlemko was worth 3-4 million dollars a year.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Poe asked me if I disagreed with Jack Adams winning coach Bob Hartley so I explained that sometimes people get things wrong.

Bollig was watching from home when they lifted the cup this year.

Can we just create a seperate thread for the anti fighting, anti Bollig, and anti Engelland crowd to post in? Call it the "I hate Bollig and Engelland" thread.

It's getting tiring how every single thread ends up being about how Bollig and Engelland suck and how dumb the Jack Adams award winner and Flames management are for keeping these guys around.

This thread is about Shore, Hathaway, Sieloff and Morrison. Can we leave Bollig and Engelland out of it?

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

isn't Kulak still here as well?

Odd, he's not on the Flames website roster, or the Stockton roster.

I think you are correct though.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Yes, some more often than others. No one is perfect, but I'd trust someone who's highly recognized in the world's best hockey league over someone who thought Schlemko was worth 3-4 million dollars a year.

Yeah, like Stan Bowman, who thought Bryan Bickell was worth 4M/4Y/NTC. These kinda guys always get it right.

Can we just create a seperate thread for the anti fighting, anti Bollig, and anti Engelland crowd to post in? Call it the "I hate Bollig and Engelland" thread.

Any thread that involves players who are competing for roster spots will have discussion about other players who are getting roster spots handed to them on a platter, like Raymond for instance, but not limited to him.

For some reason, for example, effective NHLer Paul Byron is being picked on in this thread as a guy who should get waived (despite being in less danger of being waived than Colborne and Raymond based solely on who Bob Hartley is calling "players we need to evaluate"). "Waive Byron just because" talk annoys me probably as much as Engelland and Bollig annoy you. But it's par for the course, get over it.

But I digress.

[getbak]

GOALTENDERS (3)

1 - Jonas Hiller
31 - Karri Ramo
37 - Joni Ortio

DEFENCEMEN (11)

4 - Kris Russell
5 - Mark Giordano
6 - Dennis Wideman
26 - Tyler Wotherspoon
27 - Dougie Hamilton
29 - Deryk Engelland
51 - Brett Kulak
7 - TJ Brodie
15 - Ladislav Smid
33 - Jakub Nakladal
44 - Ryan Wilson(PTO)

FORWARDS (16)

11 - Mikael Backlund
13 - Johnny Gaudreau
16 - Josh Jooris
17 - Lance Bouma
18 - Matt Stajan
19 - David Jones
21 - Mason Raymond
23 - Sean Monahan
24 - Jiri Hudler
32 - Paul Byron
52 - Brandon Bollig
67 - Michael Frolik
79 - Micheal Ferland
93 - Sam Bennett
8 - Joe Colborne
60 - Markus Granlund

So, seven more moves required...

• Release Wilson, or sign him to a two-way and send him to Stockton if he clears waivers
• Brodie and Smid to IR
• Colborne to IR if his injury last night was bad enough
• Nakladal and Granlund to Stockton

That would leave either Wotherspoon, Ortio, or one of the forwards to be sent down to fit the 23 man limit. Wotherspoon seems most likely.

[SuperMatt18]

I think I would actually keep Nakladal up as the 7 and send Kulak back to the minors. Has looked good but still only has 1 year of pro, and could benefit more from playing lots of minutes in the AHL vs being a 7 up in the press box.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think I would actually keep Nakladal up as the 7 and send Kulak back to the minors. Has looked good but still only has 1 year of pro, and could benefit more from playing lots of minutes in the AHL vs being a 7 up in the press box.

If Kulak's kept up, it's to be the #6/#5 until Smid or Brodie are back.
Nakladal can be kept up to be the #6/#7 until that time.

[MissTeeks]

Dude is cursed:

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions4m4 minutes agoCalgary, Alberta

Hearing health concerns for #Flames Joe Colborne after WPG game. Perhaps long term. Tough for Joe. Could help log jam for forward spots

[Phaneufenstein]

Probably shattered some bones

[CroFlames]

Dang. I thought Joe looked like he really was about to take a step forward in his game.

Disheartening as a fan of his to hear that.

[Aeneas]

Look forward to seeing more of Hathaway in the future.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

If Kulak's kept up, it's to be the #6/#5 until Smid or Brodie are back.
Nakladal can be kept up to be the #6/#7 until that time.

Yeah I was thinking that Wotherspoon had won the #6 spot, but I guess that Kulak may have won that spot.

In that case I think the same thing though. In that case keep Nakladal up as #7 and then send Wotherspoon down to the minors.

In the end I think it's going to be one of Kulak or Wotherspoon, and one of Nakladal or Wilson for those final two spots.

[dammage79]

Calgary Flames ‏@NHLFlames 1m1 minute ago
The #Flames have assigned 5 players to the @AHLHeat ~ http://cflam.es/1LYlE0K CGY has 29 players remaining in camp.

T-Spoon and Nakladal added to the list.

[Toonage]

Flames twitter saying Wotherspoon has been demoted

Thank you dammage79 for the link!

[tvp2003]

Gotta be disappointing for Wotherspoon.

Looks like Kulak wins the #6 spot; can't see them signing Wilson just to put Kulak in the pressbox.

[The Yen Man]

Really hope they don't sign Wilson unless it's a 2 way contract so they can send him down to Stockton.

[Imported_Aussie]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Dude is cursed:

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions4m4 minutes agoCalgary, Alberta

Hearing health concerns for #Flames Joe Colborne after WPG game. Perhaps long term. Tough for Joe. Could help log jam for forward spots

Just as he was starting to look like the missing ingredient in that forward corps - a big bodied guy to roll with the Kings/Ducks/Sharks.

Hopefully this means Granlund can stay, different player, but a guy who would look great on 2/3 LW or 3C

[Enoch Root]

Wow, that is kind of surprising in that there are now only 7 healthy defensemen in camp including Wilson.

Would have thought they would keep (at least) one more than that until the last minute.