10-01-2015, 09:53 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by codynw
For one thing, if you want a player that brings "more to the table", Kopitar, and maybe even Bergeron (especially if you count cap hits) are better options than Toews.
And for another, Crosby isn't just a floater that puts up a bunch of points. I don't know where that reputation came from, but he's very competent defensively, while being WAY ahead of the competition offensively. At least he usually is, last year was an off year.
This really shouldn't even be a discussion.
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I agree with you that Crosby isnt just some floater who puts up points, but everything he does Toews does just as well, but in the much tougher Western Conference, with the exception of tons of points, but Toews has an absolutely relentless will to win and he most often does.
Its just personal preference I guess, and I'm not saying that Crosby is hot garbage or anything, I'd just prefer Toews.
Besides if you're picking between the two you cant really go wrong either way.
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10-01-2015, 10:39 AM
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#62
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16 of the 50 players will be well rested as they did not make the playoffs.
In the west the non-playoff teams:
LA Doughty, Kopitar, Quick
Dallas Benn, Sequin
Colorado Duchene
SJ Pavelski, Burns, Couture
Edm Hall, McDavid
Ari Ekman-Larsson
No weighting given to making team successful?
Bergeron over playoff team members Ladd and Wheeler
Hall with 1 GWG over the last 2 years over Hudler (6)-Monahan(8)-Gaudreau(4) just counting last years GWGs ??
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10-01-2015, 11:18 AM
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#63
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Weitz
As much as I love McDavid, I agree you really have no business being on a list until you play some games.
Mind you, I think they included him to up views and increase discussion.
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exactly the point I was trying to make...he is one there only because of hype, click bait, viewers ect.
If he is a point per game player this year than fine put him up there next season...otherwise the generational thing is a load of BS. He may not even be the best rookie this year let alone in the last decade plus
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10-01-2015, 11:36 AM
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#64
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Preseason counts.  |
Really? So how many points in the standings do you get for a preseason win? You'd better watch it. All those preseason wins may be endangering your chances of drafting Auston Matthews next spring! 
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10-01-2015, 11:41 AM
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#65
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by dino7c
exactly the point I was trying to make...he is one there only because of hype, click bait, viewers ect.
If he is a point per game player this year than fine put him up there next season...otherwise the generational thing is a load of BS. He may not even be the best rookie this year let alone in the last decade plus
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Nah, next year it will be Auston Matthews at number 31.
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10-01-2015, 12:03 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Radically Red
Then he should be on the list next year after showing what he can do.
Let him prove it first is all I would want.
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Why? Either they are right or wrong and either way it means nothin. Every person who reads the list is probably looking to see if McDavid is there and where he is.
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10-02-2015, 01:14 AM
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#67
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I wonder if such a list existed in Crosby's rookie year, and where did he slot before playing a single game.
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10-02-2015, 07:39 AM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by renny
I wonder if such a list existed in Crosby's rookie year, and where did he slot before playing a single game.
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Crosby was 26th in the Hockey News top 50 05/06 preview.
http://hockeytraderumors.com/the-hoc...idy-2005-2006/
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10-02-2015, 07:56 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
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TSN really milking the McDavid thing for all it's worth, so his presence and standing on the list is no surprise.
The "Camp McDavid" feature is cringe worthy.
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10-02-2015, 08:31 AM
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#70
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
16 of the 50 players will be well rested as they did not make the playoffs.
Bergeron over playoff team members Ladd and Wheeler
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He's clearly superior to those players though. There's probably should be some weight given to team success, but it is an individual ranking list. And if we're giving bonuses to players with team success, the first line center with a Stanley Cup ring gets the bonus.
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10-02-2015, 09:49 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
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2 wrongs....
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10-02-2015, 12:58 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
2 wrongs....
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Except they weren't wrong about Crosby. He finished 6th in scoring....
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