09-19-2015, 03:06 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
isn't 77 games too many for that tourney?
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Sorry, referring to Cali's comment on Nurse
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09-19-2015, 03:06 PM
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#62
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so $30M for a guy with 3 NHL goals...
$10M per goal - just to put things into perspective
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09-19-2015, 03:06 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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this contract shows how great the Brodie, Hamilton and Giordano deals are
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09-19-2015, 03:06 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The bar was low in Edmonton last year, but nonetheless, he struggled in his own end A LOT.
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He struggled in his own end, or Justin Schultz dragged him down? Legitimate question, because there were many things I'd rather do than watch the Oilers unless they're playing us and he didn't look bad to me against us.
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09-19-2015, 03:09 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He struggled in his own end, or Justin Schultz dragged him down? Legitimate question, because there were many things I'd rather do than watch the Oilers unless they're playing us and he didn't look bad to me against us.
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I watch the Oilers quite a bit. He is still learning how to play in his own zone in the NHL. Whether it's with Schultz or anyone else.
He is not an NHL top 4 defenseman (yet)
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09-19-2015, 03:09 PM
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#66
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Vancouver Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan
I think Nurse is all but a lock to be a top 4 defenseman. He's a blue chipper. Klefbom is pretty much already there. The only question mark is Reinhart.
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I agree on Nurse, he's a top pairing guy as early as next year. Klefbom is only a top 4 on the oilers by default. On how many NHL rosters is this guy even in the top 6?
We'll see on Reinhart, but he got beat out by two other D prospects in the Islanders system last year, not exactly a good sign going forward.
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09-19-2015, 03:12 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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So you wrote this:
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Klefbom's been good at the SHL level too. He's a good defenseman. Maybe not a top pairing guy like Oil fans want but certainly a second pairing guy.
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based on this?:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He struggled in his own end, or Justin Schultz dragged him down? Legitimate question, because there were many things I'd rather do than watch the Oilers unless they're playing us and he didn't look bad to me against us.
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09-19-2015, 03:15 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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David Staples @dstaples 47m47 minutes ago
Have to say this Oscar Klefbom deal was a bold move by new GM Chiarelli. And I like it.
That's one way to spin it. I choose to spin it as the following:
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09-19-2015, 03:20 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
based on this?:
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Not sure why I can't say he's a middle pairing guy based on just watching Calgary vs Edmonton games? He looks steady to me when I watch them. Maybe you watch them more to me, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have my opinion.
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Last edited by GranteedEV; 09-19-2015 at 03:45 PM.
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09-19-2015, 03:22 PM
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#70
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Haha, bold! He's taunted as being a big guy at six three, but he had four total penalty minutes and was a minus 21 in 60 games. I'd call that pretty soft if you ask me
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09-19-2015, 03:22 PM
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#71
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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was this the guy byron out muscled in the corner to set ip the gwg even though he is like a foot shorter
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09-19-2015, 03:24 PM
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#72
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#1 Goaltender
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It's like a riskier version of the awful Jake Gardiner contract that removes all incentive for the player to actually reach their ceiling.
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09-19-2015, 03:24 PM
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#73
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robo
was this the guy byron out muscled in the corner to set ip the gwg even though he is like a foot shorter
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no that was Marincin.
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09-19-2015, 03:26 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
no that was Marincin.
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aw darn
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09-19-2015, 03:35 PM
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#75
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Beautiful Vancouver Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neo45
It's like a riskier version of the awful Jake Gardiner contract that removes all incentive for the player to actually reach their ceiling.
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Hmmm ... Not saying either way whether he will live up to that contract but I would definitely prefer Klefbom to Gardiner.
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09-19-2015, 03:49 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Reed
Hmmm ... Not saying either way whether he will live up to that contract but I would definitely prefer Klefbom to Gardiner.
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Actually, Gardiner is a perfect comparison to show how risky (read: stupid) this contract is. Comparing Klefbom today with Gardiner at the same age (22):
Gardiner: drafted #17 overall, 75 games, 7G, 23A, 30P, 18Pims
Klefbom: drafted #19 overall, 77 games, 3G, 20A, 23P, 4Pims
Three years ago, Gardiner was a highly desired young prospect who was considered a shoe-in to be a long-time top 4 defenseman.
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09-19-2015, 04:02 PM
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#77
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Dumb term and a million too much.
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09-19-2015, 04:15 PM
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#78
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Might actually end up being OK but speaks to a questionable approach and mindset. It really does seem it is always given, never earned up there.
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09-19-2015, 04:19 PM
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#79
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Actually, Gardiner is a perfect comparison to show how risky (read: stupid) this contract is. Comparing Klefbom today with Gardiner at the same age (22):
Gardiner: drafted #17 overall, 75 games, 7G, 23A, 30P, 18Pims
Klefbom: drafted #19 overall, 77 games, 3G, 20A, 23P, 4Pims
Three years ago, Gardiner was a highly desired young prospect who was considered a shoe-in to be a long-time top 4 defenseman.
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This.
Average player on a terrible team looks amazing.
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09-19-2015, 04:25 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shermanator
David Staples @dstaples 47m47 minutes ago
Have to say this Oscar Klefbom deal was a bold move by new GM Chiarelli. And I like it.
That's one way to spin it. I choose to spin it as the following:

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The reset button has been hit by the press up there. May not have Lowe egging them on and pouring the kool aid anymore, but they have more than enough experience in ignoring reason and calling dubious deals as bold and positive.
Is there any reason to get such a deal done now for PC? Hasn't played a game under the new coach and he's got $30m dollars. The type of stuff PC got canned for in Boston.
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