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Old 09-16-2015, 10:40 AM   #61
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I don't know if you are on a personal vendetta against Tallon but this part is just nonsense.

Tallon took over in Chicago in 2005 after the Blackhawks had been terrible for almost a decade. By year four they were in the playoffs (lost in the conference finals) and the next year they were the SC champs. He built the core that made Chicago the perennial contender they are today.

When he took over in Florida in 2010 the Panthers had been a perennial loser since their existence. He had nothing to work with, their prospect pool was zero. They made the playoffs on his second year with mercenaries like Fleichmann and Versteeg but it wasn't sustainable and only last year their own prospects and drafting started coming into fruition. It's hard not to see them competing for the playoffs for the foreseeable future.

He has been handed keys to two different organizations that were completely crap and he turned them around. Whether Florida can become a perennial playoff team and a contender remains to be seen but the core is there.
Nothing personal at all but if we are going to slam the Oilers for losing into high draft picks we should be consistent in bashing poor management? He (director of player personnel from 1998-2002) whiffed on every single first round pick until 2003 when he finally got some hits and that team was in shambles then in 2004 he whiffed on Barker at 3rd overall and in 2005 Jack Skille in 2005 at 7th overall. The team got so bad he got to pick Toews and Kane at 3rd and 1st overall in successive drafts and we've learned from the Oilers that any team can pick top five consistently and accumulate talent. Once the Hawks got better it became apparent to management he was not the guy to handle building the team and he got the axe after wasting $$$ on Khabibulin, Brian Campbell, and Cristobal Huet then of course there was the major qualifying offer mishap where he had the offers mailed (they are supposed to be faxed not mailed) and he was generally viewed as a bumbling idiot in Chicago when he was fired. Yeah I bet you forgot how bad the Hawks were in their cap situation with him?

I must have missed when the Panthers turned around. When he took over the Panthers yes they were a perennial loser and what has he done to change that outside of simply being worse so he could attain higher draft picks in successive drafts (sounds familiar doesn't it?). Sorry guys but he's a terrible GM and I fail to see anything he's done that even Kevin Lowe couldn't under the same circumstances.

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Old 09-16-2015, 10:52 AM   #62
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I think JG could become a consistent top 5 point producer in the NHL. That doesn't mean he'll be a top 5 player. Toews is a top 5 player but not point producer. Kane is a top 5 point producer but not player. Crosby is both.

Huberdeau, however, won't become either a top 5 point producer or top 5 player.
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:38 PM   #63
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Man, I really like JG too, but your homer glasses are on too tight.

I hope you're right, but to suggest top 5 in all of the NHL, right now, is off.
Not right now but when he is in his prime I have no doubt he will be. Huberdeau is going to be a good player but he simply does not have the vision or talent Gaudreau has. JG put up more points in his rookie year than Huberdeau ever has, was a huge force at the Worlds a year ago, and has that special talent you are born with. Huberdeau will be a good player, no doubt, but JG will be superstar player.
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:57 PM   #64
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I like Gaudreau as much as the next person, but **IF** we ever landed Huberdeau, I'd like to think he'd rock the 1st line with Monahan-Hudler.
I dont see why.

JG has one NHL season at 22 years old with 64 points.

JH has 3 NHL seasons at 22 years old with 54 points.

I gotta go with Johnny on the top line.
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It would be fun to get Huberdeau just to say we have 2 of the top 10 picks from the 2011 draft.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:29 PM   #66
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He's a good talent but it's hard to place him at this stage of his career. I think he's going to be a very good player but I'm not sure if he will be an elite star. Making a big offer for him and forefitting the high picks could be genius or may bring with it a future pink slip. This is probably why we won't see an offer sheet.
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