[News] Curtis Glencross Retires

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Poe969

To be fair, he wouldn't have been worth as much if others weren't interested but I'm willing to bet that every GM who looked into acquiring Glencross is happy they didn't get him.

He could still be on the Flames had he not wanted to cash in on this contract and instead he has to prove he still belongs in the NHL. I agree with IgiTang that I haven't seen what most people were raving about and I think he was just over hyped by fans. He came off as someone who thought he'd be a top 6 player on any team and it looked greedy (this is how he looked to some people, some may disagree but no one is right or wrong). As a Flames fan, I'm glad he is no where near this team.

I know I considered Glencross to be among the leadership of this team and that was really important to me, it was a big reason I didnt want to see him traded because I figured we were already running with a really young, very inexperienced team that was already missing Gio.

And I dont think I was wrong in that, I think he really brought that leadership aspect, what I was wrong about was the value of that leadership because the young, inexperienced team not only clicked along just fine without him, they actually got better.

Ultimately I think Glencross' problem was that he fit in really well here, with this team and with these players he was given really good opportunities and the organization really valued the intangibles that he brought.

The downside to that is that some teams dont give a rat's ass about those intangibles all they want are his goals and assists and as such he doesnt fit in quite as well.

So maybe he'll bring that to Toronto and they'll sign him for it, but if hes auditioning just on his playing qualities then hes rapidly approaching that 'marginal at best' category of NHLers.

[Poe969]

I think you guys are reading too much into it. He's not saying he was right and everyone was wrong (or at least I didn't get that from his post) he was saying that he (along with me) didn't really like Glencross and thought he was over hyped...especially this past season.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Like the smell of your own farts much? You will be taking even more flack for coming across like a pompous d-bag.

I'm in the Navy. You learn to appreciate really terrible odors. Even those of others but especially those of your own.

[dino7c]

Its pretty hard to deny that Glencross was over rated considering there is a good chance he will be out of the league soon

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Care to elaborate? I'm not the one saying that I'm right and everyone else on this forum is wrong about Glencross.

Yeah but you are the one insulting people over an opinion about hockey. He thinks Glencross is a plug? How is that a heinous offense? The words public forum insinuates dissenting opinions. You're just throwing fuel on the fire here.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I think you guys are reading too much into it. He's not saying he was right and everyone was wrong (or at least I didn't get that from his post) he was saying that he (along with me) didn't really like Glencross and thought he was over hyped...especially this past season.

You're right he didn't say it. He implied it in 3 different statements.

He said he's felt this way about Glencross for years, not lately. He thinks that Glencross' success is due to playing with Iginla which couldn't be more wrong.

The guy had success as a grinding power forward and tried to be something more. That's what his fall boils down to. If you've watched him for the past 5 years it should be easy to see that he's not playing the same game. Good luck finding a clip of Glencross making a drop pass before 2014.

He was called Scoreface for a reason. Some of you have way too short of memories.

[Poe969]

I've often wanted to do this just to see what would happen. Just pop into a thread and post:

You're wrong.

People would blow up because so many people think that their opinion on something is fact.

If we look at the facts right now, Glencross was on the Flames and stated he wanted to cash in (or not take a discount) or whatever. He apparently turned down a contract from the Flames (I'm pretty sure I read that in a thread, I could be wrong though) and turned it down. It's September 11th. Glencross has had almost 2 and a half months to get a contract but instead he's trying to make a team that will likely have a lottery pick.

He was good and serviceable in his time, but that time has long since passed. His leadership wasn't that important considering the team did better after he'd been traded to another team. He played terrible to end the season and into the playoffs, was a healthy scratch and was a direct cause of one of the major goals against the caps in the playoffs.

He was good. He isn't good now. Maybe he can find his game again but by the looks of it, he'll be in tough to be anything more than a roster filler (or plug as IgiTang said).

[Flames89]

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

I've been vocal about my distain for Glencross for years.

I've taken a lot of flack about it on this board too. This result echoes my thoughts.

I've failed to see his leadership and desire to just go out there and get it done. Clearly, gm's across the league have similar thoughts.

So I summed it up in one word.

No one has to share or agree with my thoughts, but I do feel somewhat vindicated by the PTO.

From here out, I'll keep my opinion to myself about Glencross.

No need. Just share them in full. The one word "plug" comments just don't add to the discussion, whereas this post can.
That's all.
Unless it is the Oilers and then one-word dismissive posts are more than acceptable.

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

The guy had success as a grinding power forward

When I look back at Glencross this is not a statement that comes to mind...ever.

[FBI]

There is way too much fart smelling going on these days at CP...

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Azhouse

When I look back at Glencross this is not a statement that comes to mind...ever.

Speedy PKer with size who can hit and score 15-20 goals with 3rd line minutes. Scored 90% of his goals from within 2 feet of the net.

What else would you call his game from 2008 - 2013?

Some posters seem to have serious memory loss issues. I know CP is an older crowd, but come on guys it was not that long ago..

[Azhouse]

Are you his brother?

[Strange Brew]

What this shows me is just how hard it is to play in the NHL. The guy was effective not that long ago, traded for a sizeable return a few months ago and now is barely hanging on. If you're a player the lesson has to be to keep yourself healthy and in shape, don't take anything for granted and cash in when you can. If you're a franchise, it speaks to the danger of handing out long term contracts to anyone below elite level.

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Speedy PKer with size who can hit and score 15-20 goals with 3rd line minutes. Scored 90% of his goals from within 2 feet of the net.

What else would you call his game from 2008 - 2013?

Some posters seem to have serious memory loss issues. I know CP is an older crowd, but come on guys it was not that long ago..

No memory loss. When I hear the term power forward I think of (young) Jerome, Milan etc. Guys that show up on a nightly basis, dictate play/ games, score key goals and will punch you in the face if you get to close. Curtis was a 3/4 liner playing on 1/2 line. When he got dropped to where he should be in the lineup he pouted. When he had trouble finding a team he whined to the press how he shouldn't have taken that supposed home town discount (which I thought was more than fair for what Curtis brought).

He was a power forward (in my mind) as much as say a Fernando Pisani was a power forward in this league.

[Tyler]

Glenny may have been great off the ice and in the locker room as a leader, but he was terrible at bringing that leadership to a game.

Bad penalties, lazy backchecking, inconsistency.. these are things that you no longer see in our leadership group and it's a big reason we are the team we are right now

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Glenny may have been great off the ice and in the locker room as a leader, but he was terrible at bringing that leadership to a game.

Bad penalties, lazy backchecking, inconsistency.. these are things that you no longer see in our leadership group and it's a big reason we are the team we are right now

Exactly what I was trying to say, thank you.
I'm sure Curtis Glencross is a phenomenal human being. But in his last couple years, his giving up on plays, very little determination, and essentially whining after plays rather than fighting through adversity on the ice is what the Flames have needed to get away from. He was the last piece of the old regime and perhaps was victim of poor leadership himself.. But that type of "cancer" for lack of a better word, is what good hockey teams are staying away from.

I wish him the best of luck as I don't like it when anyone loses their job, but its tough to feel bad for someone who had the world in their hands, millions in their bank account and took it for granted.

[PrettyBoyFlizzy]

The team didn't miss a beat without Glencross, and actually looked a lot better. That alone speaks volumes about his supposed leadership. He was good during a two year span, but lets not overlook the fact he took a lot of lazy and selfish penalties.

[dissentowner]

He was also the laziest player when it came to line changes, always slowly to the bench and the last to change.

[totti_07]

Pretty sure I saw him at the NW Costco on Friday....overheard him saying he is heading out on Monday