Conroy, Langkow, Drury, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Jokinen, Huselius, were all top-line caliber players at one point or another, and all had those years with the Flames.
Conroy, Langkow, Drury, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Jokinen, Huselius, were all top-line caliber players at one point or another, and all had those years with the Flames.
Hmm, while they all showed flashes I'm not sure I agree that a single one of those guys is a "bona fide #1 line player". I think Cammy could have been but he was always riddled with injuries. I just don't think you can make the claim that Iggy had a tough time "gelling" with 1st line players because he never really played with many for any length of time.
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Drury, Bertuzzi, Jokinen, and Crosby probably were the most established players he was tried with unsuccessfully.
Did he really get a shot with Crosby? I can't remember.
Yeah the assertion that Iggy is tough to play with isn't all that strong when you look at the list now.
Though I also think its fair to say he did not have any particular chemistry with some big name players either. Drury, Bertuzzi, Cammalleri (outside of the first year where Iggy became the assist guy), and Jokinen. Also Crosby as mentioned.
Seems like Iggy required a specific type of player to gel with, and they usually weren't bonafide #1 line players oddly enough.
Hmm, while they all showed flashes I'm not sure I agree that a single one of those guys is a "bona fide #1 line player". I think Cammy could have been but he was always riddled with injuries. I just don't think you can make the claim that Iggy had a tough time "gelling" with 1st line players because he never really played with many for any length of time.
I really have to disagree. I think our views are skewed because we saw them fade and certainly weren't the players who we had when first getting them.
-Drury was here for like a year? Not a lot of time, but he was a top line player in Buffalo, Colorado and New York.
-Conroy was a Selke finalist centerman. The Bergeron-type of his era. Langkow was a similar mold as well, and I would say was a better offensive player than Conroy.
- Cammy and Tanguay were both 80 pt players, and Cammy was the first player to outscore Iginla in what, a decade?
- Jokinen was a first line player on every team he played on before coming to the Flames.
- Huselius is kind of an aberration, but while he was here, he was certainly a top-line player for the Flames and a catalyst for most of our offense from that time.
I'm not sure how much validity there is to "he couldn't gel with top guys", I just think people are a little sour on these players because of the way they finished here.
He had good success with Crosby in the Olympics IIRC. During Iginla's time in Pittsburg he played with Malkin, on the left wing.
Bertuzzi didn't play with Iginla. Todd was 2nd line left wing behind Cammaleri
Drury put up typical Drury numbers in his one lone season in Calgary.
The only one you could make the case for is Jokinen IMO. They just didn't mesh.
Yeah I would agree with basically all of this.
However I went back to my game files from 08/09 and for the first chunk of the season it was either Bertuzzi/Langkow/Iggy or Bertuzzi/Conroy/Iggy. The lines got reshuffled at some point likely due to a lack of production I would imagine.
I believe once the lines got settled they used Bertuzzi with Langkow and Bourque for the majority, meanwhile Cammy/Conroy/Iggy or sometimes Lombardi.
However they certainly tried Bertuzzi with Iggy and didn't seem to mesh either.
Also looking at the linemate statistics from his time with Pittsburgh he played with Crosby 29% of the time, so he had his opportunities to show some chemistry I would suggest. He definitely played with Malkin by the end though.
He had good success with Crosby in the Olympics IIRC. During Iginla's time in Pittsburg he played with Malkin, on the left wing.
Bertuzzi didn't play with Iginla. Todd was 2nd line left wing behind Cammaleri
Drury put up typical Drury numbers in his one lone season in Calgary.
The only one you could make the case for is Jokinen IMO. They just didn't mesh.
Crosby and Iginla played together at the Olympics because neither of them were going and the other 3 lines were, the team had pairs they were working with, and Iginla didn't really have a dance partner like Thornton/Marleau or Getlzaf/Perry.
Wasn't Iginla out there with Sidney instead of Mike Richards for the winner?
Crosby and Iginla played together at the Olympics because neither of them were going and the other 3 lines were, the team had pairs they were working with, and Iginla didn't really have a dance partner like Thornton/Marleau or Getlzaf/Perry.
Wasn't Iginla out there with Sidney instead of Mike Richards for the winner?
Yeah, Iggy and Crosby were terrible in that tournament. I mean, Iggy lead the team in goals (Crosby was 2nd, 1 behind), and both were tied for 2nd in points (1 behind Toews). What chumps!
If only they could have played as well as guys like Thornton, with his 2 points in the tournament.
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Crosby and Iginla played together at the Olympics because neither of them were going and the other 3 lines were, the team had pairs they were working with, and Iginla didn't really have a dance partner like Thornton/Marleau or Getlzaf/Perry.
Wasn't Iginla out there with Sidney instead of Mike Richards for the winner?
So umm okay, cool cool.
Did Iginla and Crosby have chemistry in that tournament or no? I said yes, you think no?
I remember one obscure but neat moment from Brent's 3rd year as head coach. We had the 6th man out there trying to get the tying goal in the dying seconds of a game. (Crucial game, trying to claw our way back into the playoff race, as usual) We didn't score. Jokinen had the puck as the buzzer goes, and he gets upset that he didn't know time was about to run out. He skates over to Gio to chew him off for not telling him there was no time left. I lipread Gio telling him to **** off as he skated away. One of the most memorable moment from that dreary season for me.
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Players boozing things up in the playoffs in this day and age is surprising. Not surprising though as there was something wrong with that team as the day Darryl stepped down from coaching the team it was like the inmates were running the asylum. A group of players decided they didn't like Playfair and it appears the team was divided under Keenan as some liked playing with no structure while players like Regehr weren't as fond. Brent tried to reign them in but it was probably too late with the culture being rooted deep. Things only changed when the roster turned over.
Yeah... that was really disappointing to read. Really summarized the Flames 2007-12... tons of talent, crap character and effort. Despite regular season success, it was really frustrating to see the team not care for 55 minutes a game, but manage to pull together 5 good minutes a game to get us into the playoffs.
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