[News] Ekblad wins Calder. Gaudreau finishes 3rd

[saillias]

Meh. Both guys finished with 1 more point than Forsberg which was enough of a difference to push Forsberg out of the nomination race.

If Gaudreau doesn't sit game 82 and get healthy scratched earlier I bet he wins it.

Eastern bias definitely came in to play with both forwards having 64 points. With two guys with equal production they created the narrative that Stone contributed more to Ottawa's playoff spot than Gaudreau did to Calgary's.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Words cannot describe how much I completely disagree with this statement.

completely agree... Stone was a game away from not even being in consideration as a "rookie"...add another 25 to gaudreau's NHL experience and I'll bet he's way better than stone was.

[Street Pharmacist]

One more quick note. Not that it means a lot, but...

NHL weekly/monthly awards:

Johnny Gaudreau - First Star of the Week Dec 29th, Rookie of the Month Dec, Rookie of the Month March

Aaron Ekblad - Third Star of the Week Dec 8

Mark Stone - Third Star of the Week April 13

[T@T]

Not that they would read this but just say they are I would love to ask the voters who voted Stone over Gaudreau a simple question?

For road games in non traditional markets who would help attendance?

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Yea, that's absolute garbage.

The number one thing Gaudreau had going for him is that he made EVERYONE around him better.

The amount of players who had career seasons because of Gaudreau's play speaks for itself. That was far and away the biggest intangible he brought to to the table, and what's going to make him a superstar moving forward.

What a ridiculously poor statement.

Do you not think that Stone did the same thing in Ottawa? Karlsson doesn't win his Norris without Stone. Hoffman does not score as many goals as he did. Turris doesn't hit a career high in points.

When we were gameplanning for the Sens in MARCH, many of us assumed Hoffman was the Sens' best rookie. Think about that for a second.

Does this say something about Stone, or something about us as Flames fans?

completely agree... Stone was a game away from not even being in consideration as a "rookie"...add another 25 to gaudreau's NHL experience and I'll bet he's way better than stone was.

This is irrelevant. Much like Ekblad being 18.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by T@T

Not that they would read this but just say they are I would love to ask the voters who voted Stone over Gaudreau a simple question?

For road games in non traditional markets who would help attendance?

This...is what we flames fans believe is part of the Calder criteria?

[CSharp]

This is total BS - whatever!

[Daradon]

Thought it might finish like that with Stone and Gaudreau tying in points.

The vote was actually really close!

[polak]

lol Stone will have 50 points next season when he cant replicate his fluke run and Johnny will have 82+. We have seen that Johnny creates the offense for thr Flames and was the main focus of the entire NHLs defence when they played the Flames all season. No one knew who Stone was until March.

This will be one we look back at and laugh. Remember when Andrew Raycroft won?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

No sour grapes here. Consider the sheer amount of voters, their affliations/bias, the density of eastern votes and the quality of the competitors, and this really could have gone any which way. I take solace in my belief that Gaudreau is about to blossom into a perennial 80-90 point superstar. The best is yet to come and the rewards won't be determined by a bunch of biased professionals and a flawed voting process.

[Daradon]

Yeah no sour grapes here either. Maybe this just makes Johnny even hungrier.

It was a great rookie class this year, Forsberg was leading most the year and ended up distant fourth. Johnny wasn't even Iin the conversation going into the season and made believers of the whole league. Half if us were worried if he was ready, or too small.

Plus, Ekblad had a rookie year on par with Orr. So you know, there's that.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Regorium

This...is what we flames fans believe is part of the Calder criteria?

Or... The one guy hire quoting?

[Street Pharmacist]

Our good friend Thomas Drance had Gaudreau for Calder and Monahan for Byng

http://nhlnumbers.com/2015/6/24/thom...medium=twitter

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Do you not think that Stone did the same thing in Ottawa? Karlsson doesn't win his Norris without Stone. Hoffman does not score as many goals as he did. Turris doesn't hit a career high in points.

No, I think Gaudreau is far and away the more dynamic talent with regard to playmaking and making those better around him. Saying Stone made his team mates better as well doesn't change the fact Guadreau did that to a significantly higher degree.

Just as Stone has the superior two way game at this point despite the fact Gaudreau is good in his own end as well.

They both had areas they were better in.

Suggesting that star power and hype were the only areas Gaudrea was superior in couldn't be farther from the truth. He was far and away the more dynamic talent of the two and that is a huge intangible in his favour.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mitch

Why all the hate for Stone? He had a fantastic season and deserves as much credit as Ekblad or Johnny.

the fact he played an NHL game 3 seasons ago

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Do you not think that Stone did the same thing in Ottawa? Karlsson doesn't win his Norris without Stone. Hoffman does not score as many goals as he did. Turris doesn't hit a career high in points.



Does this say something about Stone, or something about us as Flames fans?



This is irrelevant. Much like Ekblad being 18.

Ekblad being 18 certainly got him votes

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Our good friend Thomas Drance had Gaudreau for Calder and Monahan for Byng

http://nhlnumbers.com/2015/6/24/thom...medium=twitter

I'm gonna lay off Drance for a bit. I pestered him with tweets until he finally conceded that he ranked calgary too low early on in the season. kinda like a half concede, but whatever.

[FireGilbert]

Too bad for Gaudreau although there is no issue with Ekblad winning. I don't get how Stone finishes 2nd though, he should have been 4th. If voters are going to vote Ekblad because he is only 18 then Stone should have lost votes for the same reason.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Too bad for Gaudreau although there is no issue with Ekblad winning. I don't get how Stone finishes 2nd though, he should have been 4th. If voters are going to vote Ekblad because he is only 18 then Stone should have lost votes for the same reason.

that is the one thing that frustrates me with the voting results. It seems a large amount voted for Ekblad because of his age. Why would that same thought process not carry over to Gaudreau and Stone?

[Daradon]

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