Iginla 7th All Time No Stanley Cup UFA July 1 2017

[Mister Yamoto]

I don't want him back, it was just time to move on. But I must admit, I thought about Jarome during game 4 against the Ducks when the Flames couldn't do anything on the 5 on 3s. Maybe Iggy wouldn't have made a difference, but Klimchuk, Agostino and Hanowski definitely didn't make a difference.

But people seem to forget that Iginla was the best player to ever put on a Flames jersey. Hall of Fame type player on the ice. 100% class act off the ice.

When the Flames took a step back in about 2010, nobody could criticize his production. So people started attacking his character. Shameful.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

"Hey the team is playing great, we have exciting youth, we made it past the second round, so let's live in the past and yearn for the good ol days watching Iginla play."

Seriously?

The guy (singular) who started the thread didn't seem to frame it that way.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I'm a huge Iggy fan like all of us are, but the only way I would want him back is if it's the last year of his contract, we're a Cup contender, we're are near the top of the standings at trade deadline, and we manage to get him for something like a 3rd or 4th round pick.

If I was Treliving, it would take a lot of things going right that season for me to even consider bringing him back.

Still have no idea wtf the thread title even means...

The thread title refers to Iginla ranked 7th of all time best players (source: Sportnet) that have not won a Stanley Cup during career. Notables above him include Dionne, Gartner, Perreault, and Ovechkin. I would have ranked him higher than Ovechkin.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Would love to see it, but seems unlikely he'll be a good fit for us in 2 years.
If his skill is still high enough and we need a 3rd line RW, maybe...

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

The guy (singular) who started the thread didn't seem to frame it that way.

Agreed. This would only work if Iginla is:
a) healthy
b) still productive with decent skating
c) willing to be the wise old vet and accept he is not captain anymore
d) a nice fit because we have a gap on 3rd or 4th line or 2nd PP unit for a tough RW power forward that can contribute and shoots R.
e) not expensive on salary cap or in trade

A checkbox on all 5 may be a pipedream but worth some fun discussion...

The dream of him finishing a career here and hoisting Cup with Johnny and company, maybe just that, but who knows.

Hunter Smith, Poirier or perhaps an 2015 pick might fill that RW gap we still have, making this discussion just magical thinking.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Would love to see it, but seems unlikely he'll be a good fit for us in 2 years.
If his skill is still high enough and we need a 3rd line RW, maybe...

I doubt he would be a 3rd line RWer. There was a pretty good talk Brian Burke gave on youtube about picking role players for role player positions (this was on him picking Team USA). I don't have the link off hand, but he essentially said while Team Canada would pick a artist to do a plumbers job, a plumber could do a plumbers job better.

In lieu of that... I don't see any "4th line PP specialist" when it makes more sense just to have your 1st line play the 1st PP and your 2nd line play the 2nd PP.

On this team, 2nd line RW or bust. He looked pretty good last year, but 2 years is a long ways a way and we have no idea what will happen then. Maybe Huder is still here and is a better option, maybe Granlund moves to RWer and produces well there, maybe Hunter Smith turns out, maybe we pick a RWer this draft.

[PsYcNeT]

I too would love to pull my hair out watching Iginla struggle to backcheck.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

I don't want him back, it was just time to move on. But I must admit, I thought about Jarome during game 4 against the Ducks when the Flames couldn't do anything on the 5 on 3s. Maybe Iggy wouldn't have made a difference, but Klimchuk, Agostino and Hanowski definitely didn't make a difference.

But people seem to forget that Iginla was the best player to ever put on a Flames jersey. Hall of Fame type player on the ice. 100% class act off the ice.

When the Flames took a step back in about 2010, nobody could criticize his production. So people started attacking his character. Shameful.

That's ok though, because those players aren't supposed to be making a difference yet. Flames just started their rebuild 2 seasons ago and almost no one expected them to be in round 2 this year.

Flames Cup contending window hasn't opened yet, and this year was pretty much just an early appetizer. When the window opens up, I would bet on Klimchuk, and maybe even Agostino, playing a part in it.

[BigRed]

Does anyone seriously think a 39 year old Iginla would contribute less than Bollig?

[stemit14]

All I hear about on the the other threads are the need for a scoring right-handed shot RW. Believe it or not... Iggy is still one of the best in the league under those parameters. I think he would be a great fit even next season. Could see Bennett get the hudler treatment that worked so well for developing Johnny and monahan in their first years.

Almost like a graduation of young players with the vets they play with. Hudler helps bring a calm, hockey-IQ to them in their first years... Iggy shows them how to be fitness freaks and unleash beast mode. Monahan watches iggy beat the crap out of Kesler for slashing at one of the kids... Next thing you know, Monahan is crushing guys in the corner and dropping the gloves with Toews in a playoff series.

And I have yet to see how iggy is too slow... Been hearing it for years but here is is again leading his team in goals and points. And that's on the Avalanche who might be the fastest team in the NHL. The flames also have tons of speed so having a one or two vets that are average speed isn't going to hurt the team. Especially when iggy can put up 25+ goals. I salivate at the thought of the one-timers he would get from johnny passes.


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[JohnnySkittles]

I would love to have him back. Not in a top 6 role, but 3rd liner with occasional PP time.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

I'm sure Iggy would be perfectly content with stepping into our dressing room and not being a leader. He knows the guard has changed and our youngsters will continue to look up to their current captains and leaders, not a guy they have never played with before.

He doesn't have to be the focus, nor do I think that's what he would want. Our culture changed, it's not "his" team anymore, it's Gio's

Originally Posted by Igottago

Its hilarious that people want to attribute the change in team dynamic to some sort of leadership or cultural issues with Iggy. The guy was always a fantastic leader and Gio is pretty much doing the exact same thing now that Iggy did at his best.

The bigger factor for the cultural turnaround of the team is the following:

- New President, GM, and organizational focus on youth
- Good drafting, and picks that can actually step into the league play
- Great coaching.

These are all far greater factors to the team success and they were all out of Iginla's sphere of influence.

That's great but not the point I was making. It is irrelevant in this city what Iggy wants. The media would be all over that story as the old hero back to help the players and team he left.

I never said Iggy was a bad leader and everything was his fault. I just stated facts. Now maybe it is just coincidence things got dramatically better after he left, maybe not, but it happened. That is all I am saying.

Here is an example. Monahan has the puck, he is racing down the ice in a 2 on 1. On the line is a goal, game, or playoff win. He knows he should take the shot, but Iggy is there. Iggy is the proven performer and clutch guy. So he hesitates, passes and a save is made.

Iggy probably didn't want the puck, but players will second guess now that he is there. It isn't his fault, but the entire organization and fans want Iggy to light it up one last time.

None of this happens if the Flames move on. Iggy hopefully gets everything he wants, as I respect him a ton. I just know the circus we got out of a few years ago, and to invite that back is not smart. The circus isn't his fault, it is ours, but none the less it is reality and we have to realize it. Win or Iggy, not both.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

I don't want him back, it was just time to move on. But I must admit, I thought about Jarome during game 4 against the Ducks when the Flames couldn't do anything on the 5 on 3s. Maybe Iggy wouldn't have made a difference, but Klimchuk, Agostino and Hanowski definitely didn't make a difference.

But people seem to forget that Iginla was the best player to ever put on a Flames jersey. Hall of Fame type player on the ice. 100% class act off the ice.

When the Flames took a step back in about 2010, nobody could criticize his production. So people started attacking his character. Shameful.

Game 4 in Round 2 of the playoffs...only once did Iggy even get to round two in his entire career with the Flames

really this is a silly comment, besides Iggy is not here because he didn't want to be...which is fine but lets not pretend he was run out of town

[Fire in the disco]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

"Hey the team is playing great, we have exciting youth, we made it past the second round, so let's live in the past and yearn for the good ol days watching Iginla play."

Seriously?

I don't think that's the point of the thread at all

[N-E-B]

Iginla's not coming back, and I do not want him back under any circumstances. I don't care if we're contenders, Iginla will never lift the Stanley Cup over his head as a part of the Flames as a player.

I'd rather him come back in some kind of made up management role and win a cup with us that way.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

But people seem to forget that Iginla was the best player to ever put on a Flames jersey.

Debateable.

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Debateable.

I kinda like the 525 goals. Who do you like? Lots of really great Flames. It is debatable, but Iggy is the best ever. (and yes I include Brett Hull and Marty St Louis)

1> Iginla
2> McDonald
3> Macinnis

Thats how I have it, and lot of players could be #4.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I doubt he would be a 3rd line RWer. There was a pretty good talk Brian Burke gave on youtube about picking role players for role player positions (this was on him picking Team USA). I don't have the link off hand, but he essentially said while Team Canada would pick a artist to do a plumbers job, a plumber could do a plumbers job better.

In lieu of that... I don't see any "4th line PP specialist" when it makes more sense just to have your 1st line play the 1st PP and your 2nd line play the 2nd PP.

On this team, 2nd line RW or bust. He looked pretty good last year, but 2 years is a long ways a way and we have no idea what will happen then. Maybe Huder is still here and is a better option, maybe Granlund moves to RWer and produces well there, maybe Hunter Smith turns out, maybe we pick a RWer this draft.

That's a great example, especially considering Canada's performance at the Olympics was probably the most dominant Olympics performance in a long time...

[Vinny01]

Depends where the Flames are. By the time Iggy is a ufa and the Flames are an elite team with established culture/identity/leadership then I would be okay coming back in a bottom 6 role. If he could get his cup in Calgary that would be great.

The flames are building a very fast team though and a 40 year old Iginla is going to be extremely slow

[Antithesis]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

"Hey the team is playing great, we have exciting youth, we made it past the second round, so let's live in the past and yearn for the good ol days watching Iginla play."

Seriously?

"Hey, instead of posting sensible counter-points to some of those brought up throughout the thread, let's post some sarcastic know-it-all one liner that doesn't even hit on any of the points brought up anywhere else in the thread. Who wants to have a discussion when I can just talk down to people?"

Seriously?