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Old 04-13-2015, 09:21 PM   #61
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I take issue with Cindy Crosby/Sedin Sisters etc... Just lazy and the whole point of those "jokes" is to compare them to women

2 girls no cup? I don't see the problem..... seems like the point of that GIF is to compare them to a disgusting video/remind us that they don't have a cup. No gender discrimination there IMO
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And FYI, if you listen to Bill Burr's podcast, the dude does have some severe issues. Some of his funniest stuff, could be viewed as downright scary to some. His Chuck Berry/Yoko Ono rant is one example..... You cannot tell me the views he puts out in that rant are all an act.
Even when comedians do radio shows etc... they are still playing exaggerated versions of themselves. Plus I found that Yoko Ono video hilarious
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Or maybe the bunch of men posting since that post can't answer it?
Nice try, false and and you know it.
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But people are making the intent more than it actually is. There is certain sub-texts to how insults are used. I think it is equally unfair to label any person that uses the term as some sort of Misogynistic a-hole. In most cases it is just stupid, and uncreative smack talk. In my Facebook feed, there is a woman that posted a Sedin Sisters meme.... what does that make her?
It doesn't make the person sexist or misogynistic, it makes the joke/comment sexist/misogynistic. Intent doesn't matter nearly as much as impact. What makes a person sexist, racist, whatever is when they've been educated on the impact of their language and yet still feel entitled to use it.
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:25 PM   #65
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huh? I remember watching it and don't recall him ever using the word fag in it. The Netflix one, in black and white?

I wasn't saying it wasn't the same ol' thing, he managed to do his comedy without using a fag. He's good.
He berates boys for being to feminine, encourages fathers to be tougher on boys, berates men that aren't manly and the women that marry them....all the same stuff.

And the way he was using 'fag' in the other special was like rubecube put it, self deprecating towards himself and the idiots that use it.

I am curious what the one jokey thing meant though. You lost me there.
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Nice try, false and and you know it.
Okay.

You tell me, as a woman, how do women feel about being called manly?
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:26 PM   #67
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Nice try, false and and you know it.
How the hell am I, as a guy, supposed to know what it's like for a woman to be called manly. If you want me argue the language aspect of it, then I'd say it's probably offensive to both genders.
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Okay.

You tell me, as a woman, how do women feel about being called manly?
Once again nice try, there's been woman posting since that question and you know it... it hasn't been a bunch on men

but you couldn't help yourself, i understand
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I am curious what the one jokey thing meant though. You lost me there.
It was a little crack about how most funny people are a bit dark on the inside. Tried to infer that each time someone thanked or laughed at a joke I made I'd a little on the inside.

How ironic and sad a post I made to tell you how funny I am, wasn't funny at all apparently.
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One of my students told another kid that he "throws like a girl" the other day.

I stopped class dead and showed them this video.

Thank you. This is the very first thing I thought of when I opened the thread.
we need more people to think like you.
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Once again nice try, there's been woman posting since that question and you know it... it hasn't been a bunch on men

but you couldn't help yourself, i understand
I have no idea if you're a woman or not. The only post I see of a known lady is Minnie's. Besides that one post, it's been a bunch of dudes, yeah.
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Once again nice try, there's been woman posting since that question and you know it... it hasn't been a bunch on men

but you couldn't help yourself, i understand
Or they missed it and got sidetracked by some other argument. Personally if someone preferred to my gf as manly, I doubt she'd be very pleased with that.
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One of my students told another kid that he "throws like a girl" the other day.

I stopped class dead and showed them this video.

Well done! That is a fantastic video. Sometimes we just need that mirror held up in front of ourselves.
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It was a little crack about how most funny people are a bit dark on the inside. Tried to infer that each time someone thanked or laughed at a joke I made I'd a little on the inside.

How ironic and sad a post I made to tell you how funny I am, wasn't funny at all apparently.
OK, I gotcha now.

But that is the thing I am kinda getting at. A guy like you or Fotze (RIP) can get away with it all day long, but lets say a poster like Rerun or Sliver made a risqué post, with the same harmless intent.... they would be chastised right off the board, because of the preconceived notion of who they are.

You guys are/were kinda the Bill Burr, and Louis CK of the board. Some posters aren't given that same latitude, just as some people IRL aren't as well, even if their intent is harmless.
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I have no idea if you're a woman or not. The only post I see of a known lady is Minnie's. Besides that one post, it's been a bunch of dudes, yeah.
Rather then being hard about it why don't you just look at the question, it's an obvious trap and was well thought out by the poster... i would avoided myself for good reason

The answer isn't important whether it's answered by a man or woman, I have zero doubt the you a dense and not able to see the trap. My post was only acknowledging a brilliance of the post and not actually fishing for an answer
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Rather then being hard about it why don't you just look at the question, it's an obvious trap and was well thought out by the poster... i would avoided myself for good reason

The answer isn't important whether it's answered by a man or woman, I have zero doubt the you a dense and not able to see the trap. My post was only acknowledging a brilliance of the post and not actually fishing for an answer
I'll be honest, I thanked it at first thinking "Oooh, check mate post FTWBBQ!1!1!1"

Then I went back and looked at it again, and realized it's just as insulting.
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But that is the thing I am kinda getting at. A guy like you or Fotze (RIP) can get away with it all day long, but lets say a poster like Rerun or Sliver made a risqué post, with the same harmless intent.... they would be chastised right off the board, because of the preconceived notion of who they are.
That's kinda like the guy the other day in FoI who was saying "Well if Baertschi played well, you guys wouldn't be talking trash about him." You can't change the facts about the situation and use it as an equivalent. I don't want to get personal here, so I'll be speak more generally than just about Sliver or Rerun, but the reason some posters get dogpiled is because their execution is terrible and it comes off in a bad way, but they tend to dig in their heels and defend it on the merits of its intent or whatever. I say stupid #### all the time in my day to day life and when someone calls me on it, instead of getting defensive, I just give them a "my bad," or something similar and it's resolved right there.
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Rather then being hard about it why don't you just look at the question, it's an obvious trap and was well thought out by the poster... i would avoided myself for good reason

The answer isn't important whether it's answered by a man or woman, I have zero doubt the you a dense and not able to see the trap. My post was only acknowledging a brilliance of the post and not actually fishing for an answer
You can't honestly believe this.
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I can't believe that in the year of our lord twenty-fifteen people still think "Sedin Sisters" is clever or funny.

Great job everyone, fighting the good fight to keep casual sexism/unfunny jokes alive.

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Rather then being hard about it why don't you just look at the question, it's an obvious trap and was well thought out by the poster... i would avoided myself for good reason

The answer isn't important whether it's answered by a man or woman, I have zero doubt the you a dense and not able to see the trap. My post was only acknowledging a brilliance of the post and not actually fishing for an answer
You must be pretty dense if you don't realize the ramification of the comment is in the intent. If I call my wife manly because she did something out of character, it would be light-hearted and flirtatious. If you posted a picture of a female weightlifter and said "UGH SO MANLY!" you are a) valuing a woman based on appearance, b) using "manly" in a negative connotation to imply that she is less of a woman, like it's a thing that exists.

Binary gender roles aren't just going away, they never existed in the first place. Like the political spectrum, gender doesn't exist on a flat line, but stupid people often think it does.
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You can't honestly believe this.
believe what exactly? Honest question, as I'm not sure you are reading the original question and picking up the same thing as I am (trap)
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