[Trade] Sabres trade Jonas Enroth to Stars for Anders Lindback and conditional 2016 3rd

[atb]

Saw this gem on reddit:

Apparently your punishment for losing to the Buffalo Sabres is that you get traded to the Buffalo Sabres.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Buffalo is starting to annoy me. Hope they get McDavid but never, ever win anything with him.

[PegCityFlamesFan]

I call your Taylor Hall injury, and I will raise you our goalie..

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Yanda

Im sure they can.

Their problem is a lot of their players are practically unmovable. Sure they can move Petry, but other thank finding someone to break Nuge's legs what else can they do?

[EldrickOnIce]

So the Sabres trade a goaltender who is no good and has no place in their future... and this upsets people?
I don't get why it should...

[Jables16]

Kinda though Enroth had a little more value than a 3rd. Played his ass off this year for an awful team and looked as good as one could expect him to under the circumstances. Good move for Dallas to pick up a guy that can give them a chance to win whenever Lehtonen needs a night off. Lindback has been godawful and is essentially just thrown in for contract # purposes and to give Buffalo a warm body.

Also, tank is certainly on in full for Buffalo. I can't see them winning more than a few of the remaining 27 games. I'd certainly rather see McDavid go to Buffalo than Edmonton but I really don't care for tanking in general. Ideally Buffalo and Edmonton finish 30 and 29 respectively and then someone else wins the lottery.

Buffalo is certainly setting themselves up for the future with McEichel, Kane, Reinhart, Ristonlainen, Zadorov they just have to make sure not to fall into the Edmonton trap, expect them all to come in and be contributors right away and actually surround them with veterans and some semblance of depth. Assuming Murray/Pegula are even slightly more competent than MacT/Lowe (which would not be difficult) they should be okay. They did already make the right call in sending Reinhart back to junior when it was clear he wasn't ready to play in the NHL.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I'm not surprised that they are trading any valuable assets, but I am really confused as to the trading of the one goaltender in their organization that could half-way be considered a starter. Even if it's just short term, you need a decent goalie at the NHL level to build some stability around. The only explanation is they are going to go after a UFA goalie in the off-season, or trade for a young promising goalie that is stuck behind others on the depth chart. Problem is, I can't think of any that fit the latter category, so here's their options for a starter to begin next year...IF they can sign him.

Antti Niemi
Karri Ramo
Victor Fasth
Ilya Bryzgalov
Michael Neuvirth (currently on their team)
Jonas Gustavsson
Thomas Greiss
Ray Emery
Oh...and Jhonas Enroth.

Niemi is the only viable starter or upgrade on Enroth, and it's not even certain that he will make it to free agency. I just don't get this move from an organizational standpoint. They just got rid of Miller last year too. The earlier trade was shrewd. This is just baffling.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

I'm not surprised that they are trading any valuable assets, but I am really confused as to the trading of the one goaltender in their organization that could half-way be considered a starter. Even if it's just short term, you need a decent goalie at the NHL level to build some stability around. The only explanation is they are going to go after a UFA goalie in the off-season, or trade for a young promising goalie that is stuck behind others on the depth chart. Problem is, I can't think of any that fit the latter category, so here's their options for a starter to begin next year...IF they can sign him.

Antti Niemi
Karri Ramo
Victor Fasth
Ilya Bryzgalov
Michael Neuvirth (currently on their team)
Jonas Gustavsson
Thomas Greiss
Ray Emery
Oh...and Jhonas Enroth.

Niemi is the only viable starter or upgrade on Enroth, and it's not even certain that he will make it to free agency. I just don't get this move from an organizational standpoint. They just got rid of Miller last year too. The earlier trade was shrewd. This is just baffling.

Perhaps contract negotiations (if they occurred) with Enroth wasn't going well, and they decided to trade him rather than let him go for nothing? Just brainstorming here

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Perhaps contract negotiations (if they occurred) with Enroth wasn't going well, and they decided to trade him rather than let him go for nothing? Just brainstorming here

I don't buy it. The Sabres currently have nearly $10 million in cap space and have players like Stewart (4.2 mill), Mitchell (2.5 mill), and Meszaros (4.125 mill) coming off the books this year, giving them another $11 million in cap space. How much do they need? The kid doesn't even make $2 million yet and he probably wanted to be paid at least as a 1A starter, so around $4 million. No problems with that and they had plenty of room to do it. They really should have rewarded him too, since he was one of the few guys who really brought his best every night this season. Although, you could argue that trading him to a halfway decent team IS rewarding him for his service.

[Jables16]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

Antti Niemi
Karri Ramo
Victor Fasth
Ilya Bryzgalov
Michael Neuvirth (currently on their team)
Jonas Gustavsson
Thomas Greiss
Ray Emery
Oh...and Jhonas Enroth.

.

They did trade and then resign Matt Moulson just this last off-season, it's not so far fetched. They pretty much add an asset in the 3rd rounder while simultaneously worsening their team for a couple months to further solidify a high draft position, then get their goalie back anyway. Murray... you Machiavellian #######...

[btimbit]

If they make some good free agent signings this summer they could be a good team. I dont wanna go full "building something special" but say they sign Niemi, Ramo, and some good vets in feont of them then in 2-3 years they could make some noise.

Obvious shameless tanking though. It's almost funny.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

I'm not surprised that they are trading any valuable assets, but I am really confused as to the trading of the one goaltender in their organization that could half-way be considered a starter. Even if it's just short term, you need a decent goalie at the NHL level to build some stability around. The only explanation is they are going to go after a UFA goalie in the off-season, or trade for a young promising goalie that is stuck behind others on the depth chart. Problem is, I can't think of any that fit the latter category, so here's their options for a starter to begin next year...IF they can sign him.

Antti Niemi
Karri Ramo
Victor Fasth
Ilya Bryzgalov
Michael Neuvirth (currently on their team)
Jonas Gustavsson
Thomas Greiss
Ray Emery
Oh...and Jhonas Enroth.

Niemi is the only viable starter or upgrade on Enroth, and it's not even certain that he will make it to free agency. I just don't get this move from an organizational standpoint. They just got rid of Miller last year too. The earlier trade was shrewd. This is just baffling.

They can also trade for a goaltender in the summer. Wouldn't be surprised if they trade for Remier or Lehner if they can't get Niemi. My money is on they sign Niemi as a UFA. From all reports I have read Sharks are ready to let Niemi walk at seasons end.

[OutOfTheCube]

Bring on McEichel! Woo

I've been drinking today

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

I don't buy it. The Sabres currently have nearly $10 million in cap space and have players like Stewart (4.2 mill), Mitchell (2.5 mill), and Meszaros (4.125 mill) coming off the books this year, giving them another $11 million in cap space. How much do they need? The kid doesn't even make $2 million yet and he probably wanted to be paid at least as a 1A starter, so around $4 million. No problems with that and they had plenty of room to do it. They really should have rewarded him too, since he was one of the few guys who really brought his best every night this season. Although, you could argue that trading him to a halfway decent team IS rewarding him for his service.

Cap space is all fine and dandy, but if an upcoming free agent wants to test the free agent market, no reasonable amount of money is going to make them pass up their opportunity.

Could be the case with Enroth.

[GioforPM]

I don't blames them. They don't need him for the POs. They got something (Rlmost certainly a 3rd) for him. They can re-sign him, someone better or trade for a Reimer or some other backup or 1B.

Heck, Calgary could trade Hiller to them in the offseason for some defence depth, resign Ramo (or sign Enroth) and start Ortio.

[genetic_phreek]

I'm all for the Sabres tanking so Oilers don't get another 1st overall pick.

[Muta]

I don't mind Buffalo winning the McDavid sweepstakes. That means he doesn't go to Edmonton, where he could potentially do damage to us for years. He stays nice and away in the Eastern Conference.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Muta

I don't mind Buffalo winning the McDavid sweepstakes. That means he doesn't go to Edmonton, where he could potentially do damage to us for years. He stays nice and away in the Eastern Conference.

Buffalo is basically Edmonton East at this point. Shamelessly making their team worse for a better chance at a higher draft pick. Was the Enroth trade really worth it? A conditional 3rd and the worst goalie in the NHL? What a joke. They don't need the pick at all, they're clearly tanking. Don't even bring up that Enroth wasn't going to sign. Long term it makes no difference with all the picks and prospects they've already accumulated. The only reason people aren't more annoyed at them around here is because they aren't the Edmonton Oilers. People would be losing their minds if the Oilers traded Scrivens for Lindback and a 3rd (or whatever the pick would be). Justice would be a dynasty of Buffalo Bills-esque proportions for this embarrassment of a franchise...

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Buffalo is basically Edmonton East at this point. Shamelessly making their team worse for a better chance at a higher draft pick. Was the Enroth trade really worth it? A conditional 3rd and the worst goalie in the NHL? What a joke. They don't need the pick at all, they're clearly tanking. Don't even bring up that Enroth wasn't going to sign. Long term it makes no difference with all the picks and prospects they've already accumulated. The only reason people aren't more annoyed at them around here is because they aren't the Edmonton Oilers. People would be losing their minds if the Oilers traded Scrivens for Lindback and a 3rd (or whatever the pick would be). Justice would be a dynasty of Buffalo Bills-esque proportions for this embarrassment of a franchise...

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not enamoured with Buffalo's actions to date (especially getting the Erie Otters to play there earlier this season), but I'll be happy if McDavid ends up on some eastern team. We don't need that threat in the Pacific division.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Have to wonder what Sabres dressing room morale is like .. Think management has addressed their "vision" to the labourers ?