Copyright Modernization Act Now in Effect

[robaur]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Also the 'offense' is from before that activity was illegal.

Retroactive prosecution

Edit: I see the recent activity, Idon't see why there is 'initial activity'

The recent activity is only there because I turned on my laptop and the torrent client has all the files there seeding. I have to get rid of this and just use my VPN it seems for further downloads.

I pay over $200 a month to bell tv for their services. This is no different than using your PVR to record a show. It's just more convinient so yes I think it's complete and utter bull####.

[Vulcan]

Please send us a prompt response indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter, making sure to reference the Notice ID number above in your response.

To me, it looks like if you do this you are admitting to your guilt. I wouldn't respond.

[Caged Great]

Maybe if companies that you have TV subscriptions to had a way to download shows properly and easily, then illegal downloading would go away significantly. In the past, there have been shows that I have downloaded because I forgot to PVR them and there was literally no other way to watch the show that I missed.

[photon]

Originally Posted by robaur

I pay over $200 a month to bell tv for their services. This is no different than using your PVR to record a show. It's just more convinient so yes I think it's complete and utter bull####.

Sorry, I'm the biggest critic of how backwards the system is but how much you pay Bell for their services doesn't translate into bull####, it isn't even relevant.

It's different than using your PVR because the license Bell gets for the show covers recording it to your PVR (which Bell can control) but does not include downloading it from anywhere you like.

I agree it is more convenient but you can't deny it is against the law and you got caught.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

To me, it looks like if you do this you are admitting to your guilt. I wouldn't respond.

That is exactly why they want you to respond.

[Bill Bumface]

I haven't downloaded music illegally since iTunes got rid of their DRM.

If TV shows and Movies were as highly available and reasonably priced this wouldn't even be an issue for a lot of people. I'd happily pay.

Now please show me where I can buy an MKV of Top Gear….

[Azure]

Originally Posted by photon

Sorry, I'm the biggest critic of how backwards the system is but how much you pay Bell for their services doesn't translate into bull####, it isn't even relevant.

It's different than using your PVR because the license Bell gets for the show covers recording it to your PVR (which Bell can control) but does not include downloading it from anywhere you like.

I agree it is more convenient but you can't deny it is against the law and you got caught.

The law is ridiculous. And until the media companies admit that they won't fix piracy.

There is no reason why someone who subscribes to HBO and misses a show shouldn't be able to go to the HBO site and watch that episode on demand. Or any other TV service. PVR might be legal, but if the MPAA had their way, the PVR wouldn't exist either.

Technically speaking it might be against the law, but if someone with money and resources actually took these dumbasses to court, it won't come out so simple.

Just a simple matter of multi-billion dollar corporations trying to bully people into paying.

[SebC]

One can, however, argue that the law itself is bull####.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

I haven't downloaded music illegally since iTunes got rid of their DRM.

If TV shows and Movies were as highly available and reasonably priced this wouldn't even be an issue for a lot of people. I'd happily pay.

Now please show me where I can buy an MKV of Top Gear….

And I haven't downloaded music either since Spotify came to Canada.

But of course if you listen to Taylor Swift and her idiot producers and record label, she isn't getting her fair share if people listen to her music on Spotify. Billion dollar tours aside, because apparently that money doesn't mean anything.

I cannot wait for the day when record labels are a thing of the past and artists can directly distribute their music to their fans through venues like Spotify and Rdio.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Azure

The law is ridiculous. And until the media companies admit that they won't fix piracy.

There is no reason why someone who subscribes to HBO and misses a show shouldn't be able to go to the HBO site and watch that episode on demand. Or any other TV service. PVR might be legal, but if the MPAA had their way, the PVR wouldn't exist either.

HBO does actually allow what you describe, if you subscribe to HBO you can go to their HBO Go site and watch the episode. They're even going to allow people who don't have a subscription through cable/satellite to subscribe this year. So it is happening, slowly.

But I agree, the law should allow for things like time and place shifting, lawmakers won't do it though otherwise they'd lose the sweet donations from the media companies.

Originally Posted by Azure

Technically speaking it might be against the law, but if someone with money and resources actually took these dumbasses to court, it won't come out so simple.

Just a simple matter of multi-billion dollar corporations trying to bully people into paying.

No doubt it's bullying and it's terrible, but I can think that and still not disagree with a notice that I've violated the current copyright laws when I know I did. The notice he got at least didn't try to bully the person into paying money (though maybe they do that when you contact them).

Originally Posted by SebC

One can, however, argue that the law itself is bull####.

Definitely.

[Azure]

I'm fine with the notice, even if I think they're ridiculous. But they're going way beyond the notices, and the changing of the law to force ISPs to pass along all violations is an obvious ploy by the MPAA and other boneheaded organizations to try and bully people into paying for their 'crime.'

It is pointless to try and stop piracy by going after the people doing it legally. Offer people an easy way to watch on all their devices and most of them will stop pirating.

The rest? Who cares. You're not going to make money off of them either way. So who gives a damn.

I brought up HBO because they have the most pirated show in the world 2 years running. And it is their own damn fault. They still don't have a way for people to watch Game of Thrones in an easy way even if they want to PAY for it. The comic strip about trying to a find a way to watch way pretty popular. In the end the guy in the strip had to go to a torrent site despite wanting to pay.

IMO, people should pirate more. Go crazy. Maybe they'll catch on then.

[Jacks]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0UO27H20150110

Jan 9 (Reuters) - Media companies must back off from threatening Canadians who illegally download movies, music and books with penalties that do not exist in Canadian law, the government said on Friday.
"These notices are misleading and companies cannot use them to demand money from Canadians," said Jake Enright, a spokesman for Industry Minister James Moore.
Officials will be contacting Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and rights holders within days to put an end to the practice, he said.
The issue surfaced on Thursday, when University of Ottawa law professor and respected industry blogger Michael Geist posted a letter from a rights holder that threatened civil liabilities of up to $150,000 per infringment.
Canadian law caps liability for non-commercial infringements by individuals at $5,000.
Recent legal amendments require ISPs to pass on to their customers copyright infringement notices from media companies.
The opposition New Democratic Party earlier on Friday urged the Conservative government to close what they called a loophole.

[Azure]

Geist has a lot of influence. We are lucky to have him standing up for the Canadian consumer.

But lol.

[Locke]

That letter reads a lot like:

"Congratulations, You've won a Free Boat! Please come to the Police Station to collect your prize!"

[Robbob]

I'd treat it as spam. You have to be very careful what you reply to on the internet so the police say.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah take it as a notice from your Internet provider and don't respond to it.

Your internet provider will not pass your personal information along to the copyright holder.

But the second you respond to them directly you are admitting guilt, and risk them then trying to come after you.

[Bob]

Curious what the ISP does if they don't have an email address on file for a particular customer. Are they obligated to snail-mail a printed copy?

[rubecube]

*BUMP*

Received one of these bad boys on the weekend. Do I actually need to stop downloading, or should I just look into a VPN service?

May-16-15

Dear Subscriber

Content owners that hold property rights for material such as movies, music and other content, actively monitor Internet activity to protect their rights. We have been notified by a content owner that your Internet Protocol (IP) address has been associated with suspected copyright infringement. As part of new Canadian copyright legislation*, we are obliged to forward to you the attached copy of the content owner's notice. We are unaware of the full details and merit of this infringement claim. If you have questions concerning this matter, please contact the content owner directly - contact information is listed in the attached notice.

Infringement of copyright laws may result in the content owner pursuing remedies available under applicable laws to protect its interests. We encourage enabling secured passwords on your home Wi-Fi network if you have one to avoid unauthorized use of your Internet connection.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Please see the link below for more information:
http://balancedcopyright.gc.ca/eic/s...a.nsf/eng/home

Sincerely,

Shaw Cablesystems G.P.

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IN ENGLISH/EN ANGLAIS
[LA TRADUCTION FRAN?AISE SUIT LE TEXTE ANGLAIS]

You are being contacted on behalf of

Paramount Pictures Corporation

and its affiliated companies because your Internet account was identified as having been used recently to illegally copy and/or distribute copyright protected works. The name of the movie or TV show, the date and time at which the claimed infringement took place, the IP address, and other relevant information relating to this notice is summarized for you at the bottom of this letter.

Our goal is to ensure you take action to prevent your Internet account from being used for illegal activities in the future, and to encourage you to take advantage of the many exciting and innovative ways you can now enjoy movie and TV content online legally. In Canada, there are more and more legitimate sites and services that provide high-quality, on demand film and TV shows, offering the easiest, fastest, safest, highest quality product and viewing experience possible. If you visit www.wheretowatchincanada.ca, you will find an array of different types of sites and services offering numerous ways to legally access the entertainment you want.

You should also be aware that many of the sites, including "peer-to-peer" sites used to illegally download or watch movies and TV shows, are unsafe for consumers and can be manipulated to steal personal information. Internet security experts warn that accessing these sites can infect computers and devices, and render the user vulnerable to spam, viruses, malware or phishing attacks.

Now that you have received this notice of claimed infringement associated with your Internet account, there are some things that you can do immediately to avoid receiving further notices and to prevent more serious consequences that may follow.

These actions include:

1. Stop downloading or uploading movies or TV shows without authorization when doing so constitutes copyright infringement;
2. Permanently delete from your computer(s) all unauthorized copies you may have already made of these movies and TV shows and consider disabling or deleting the peer to peer software that facilitates that activity; and
3. Make sure that anyone else who is authorized to use your Internet account is made aware of this notice - and take steps to ensure that your Internet account cannot be used by someone who is not authorized to do so.

The illegal copying and distribution of copyrighted works are prohibited under the Canadian Copyright Act. In addition, unauthorized copying and/or distributing of copyrighted content using your Internet account may be a violation of your ISP's terms of service for which there are other consequences. Under Canada?s Copyright law, your ISP is now required to forward this notice to you, inform us that the notice has been forwarded, and retain records associated with this notice for prescribed periods of time.

The "Respect Copyright in Canada" website, accessible at www.respectcopyrightincanada.ca , offers resources to help you to ensure that your Internet account is not being used to violate copyright law. You can also learn how illegal reproduction and distribution of movies and TV shows hurts the Canadian economy and is a threat to the over 130,000 jobs across Canada in film and TV production alone.

If, after visiting www.respectcopyrightincanada.ca you still have questions, or if you believe that there has been an error, and you wish to contact us, you may do so by email at paramount.ca.notice@ap.markmonitor.com

Please cite the Reference ID 222107202048

in the subject line of your email and please also let us know with which ISP you have your Internet account.

Sincerely,
Paramount Pictures Corporation and its affiliated companies

* This letter is not a complete statement of the rights of the claimant or copyright owner in connection with this matter, and nothing contained herein constitutes an express or implied waiver of any rights, remedies or defense of the copyright owner, the claimants, and/or their affiliates, all of which are expressly reserved.

[burnin_vernon]

I've heard to just ignore the letter and get the VPN. I don't know anyone using a good VPN who has been warned.

[Azure]

You were probably one of 3 million other people that got that email.

I wouldn't worry about it.

Considering how cheap a good VPN is, yes I would get one.