11-26-2014, 11:01 AM
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#61
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
I'd be willing to bet that if Jones can play tonight, Hartley will insert him and we'll see the paper transaction (along with the associated outrage) sending Baertschi to Addy for the day.
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I think that would be the correct move. Only other option would be Knight, but I assume he fits in better as a C.
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11-26-2014, 11:02 AM
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#62
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Had an idea!
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Problem wasn't his 'skill' or lack of. He simply wasn't fast enough to get to the spots where he can score. Not sure if he was always this slow, but he needed to get faster to play with the Flames.
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11-26-2014, 11:04 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Dime_On_Flames
Really interesting that 2 wingers who lit it up with Jumbo Joe are both out of the league. It's like the Sports Illustrated jinx or something.
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Cheechoo has at least been putting up respectable numbers in the KHL the past couple of seasons. I suspect that is where we see Setoguchi next year, barring some kind of miraculous comeback.
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11-26-2014, 11:11 AM
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#64
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Draft Pick
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Too bad, I was pumped when we signed him because I remember him making a pretty big impact in San Jose during 2010 especially during playoffs. I've been cheering for the guy but 12 games, 145 minutes and no points speaks for itself. Hope he does well in Adirondack and this isn't his last chance to play in the NHL.
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11-26-2014, 11:13 AM
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#65
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
If I recall correctly, and unless they changed it, you cannot do paper transactions, but the player must actually get on a plane if he is being sent down. I have some vague recollection of that happening last year - but I drink to excess quite often and both forget and imagine things...
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I may be wrong, but I think they changed it. They sort of realized it was one of those dumb rules that didn't really accomplish what was intended.
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11-26-2014, 11:16 AM
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#66
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I believe in the Jays.
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I wonder if the team will ask if he wants to be put on $125.00 waivers.
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11-26-2014, 11:18 AM
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#67
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Parallex
I wonder if the team will ask if he wants to be put on $125.00 waivers.
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No reason why he would choose to sacrifice a $750,000 contract for an uncertain future.
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11-26-2014, 11:19 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
No reason why he would choose to sacrifice a $750,000 contract for an uncertain future.
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unless he has a more lucrative offer waiting for him in Europe
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11-26-2014, 11:23 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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Great news.
So Jones will play 2-3 games for us and likely get injured again while playing decent hockey.
Poirier the next call-up? Perhaps that's the final goal here.
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11-26-2014, 11:23 AM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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If Treliving knew that he was going to waive Seto, he may have gave him the chance to talk to some teams in Europe about a contract. Maybe they'd see if he'd get picked up by an NHL team (other than Edmonton) for one last kick at the cat and if it doesn't work out then maybe he has a deal in place to go over seas. The Flames brass seems like they would do not only what's best for the team but what's in the players best interests too.
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11-26-2014, 11:23 AM
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#71
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
No reason why he would choose to sacrifice a $750,000 contract for an uncertain future.
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Was thinking he might get an offer from a team in the KHL... he might make more over there.
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11-26-2014, 11:26 AM
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#72
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
Poirier the next call-up? Perhaps that's the final goal here.
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Hmm as much as this would be awesome, with guys coming back from injury I don't think this is in the cards quite yet. Let him tear up the AH while he gets back into game shape.
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11-26-2014, 11:26 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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don't really understand why they didn't do it yesterday. With Hartley talking about the possibility that Jones might be available today, they obviously knew a roster had to come. Why wait for another day and force yourself to do a paper transaction with Sven/Knight? Maybe they intended to send down Sven and then he tied their hands with a good game yesterday. Honestly, I have no other explanation for them waiting until today.
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11-26-2014, 11:27 AM
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#74
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
unless he has a more lucrative offer waiting for him in Europe
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True enough, but I doubt it. Other than the KHL, he wouldn't be likely to get an offer close to that. And midway through their season for a guy who's produced nothing? I'd be surprised.
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11-26-2014, 11:32 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by devo22
Honestly, I have no other explanation for them waiting until today.
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They wanted more certainty on Jones' status before making the move? Pretty straight forward.
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11-26-2014, 11:32 AM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
True enough, but I doubt it. Other than the KHL, he wouldn't be likely to get an offer close to that. And midway through their season for a guy who's produced nothing? I'd be surprised.
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Staffan Kronwall makes 1.5M over there... if Staffan Kronwall can pull down that kind of scratch I'd think Setoguchi could find someone willing to shell out 750K+ or equivalency after tax considerations pro-rated for the rest of the year... or maybe not. If he could I'd be willing to bet the Flames would be good employers and let him.
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11-26-2014, 11:35 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by devo22
don't really understand why they didn't do it yesterday. With Hartley talking about the possibility that Jones might be available today, they obviously knew a roster had to come. Why wait for another day and force yourself to do a paper transaction with Sven/Knight? Maybe they intended to send down Sven and then he tied their hands with a good game yesterday. Honestly, I have no other explanation for them waiting until today.
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Or maybe they weren't sure Jones could play until today?
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11-26-2014, 11:35 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
True enough, but I doubt it. Other than the KHL, he wouldn't be likely to get an offer close to that. And midway through their season for a guy who's produced nothing? I'd be surprised.
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I'd guess it's like when a player comes to the CFL after an unsuccessful NFL venture. Especially on international ice. The game is different and Setoguchi might actually be a very good fit for a team over there.
I'm just spit balling though. I'd just guess that they don't get the chance to sign many bonafide NHL players who are actually producing.
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11-26-2014, 11:35 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
They wanted more certainty on Jones' status before making the move? Pretty straight forward.
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not really straight forward because they still would have had the option to keep Setoguchi up after he cleared. Worst case scenario would have been that he got claimed and Jones was still out, in which case we would have only one forward in the press box, which wouldn't have been a big deal at all.
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11-26-2014, 11:36 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Parallex
Staffan Kronwall makes 1.5M over there... if Staffan Kronwall can pull down that kind of scratch I'd think Setoguchi could find someone willing to shell out 750K+ or equivalency after tax considerations pro-rated for the rest of the year... or maybe not. If he could I'd be willing to bet the Flames would be good employers and let him.
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But in the KHL if you are not producing, I think they can just cancel your contract. It might be a big risk for him at this point since he currently has a guaranteed contract. I guess it depends on how confident he is.
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