Karla Homolka is living in Canada again, Magnotta trial hears

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

I'm sorry to use the term but anyone who wants to take the soft approach and be understanding to Homolka is a ####. How the hell did she get into the school when a police background check is supposed to be done? This is on the school and the administration and I expect them to be accountable. If this was my daughters school I would be raising hell and pulling her out. Unacceptable to have a serial killer volunteering with children. The principle is a #### too.

Pretty sure I agree with you, but I still don't know what #### means. And urban dictionary is sort of leading me astray.

[rayne008]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

I'm sorry to use the term but anyone who wants to take the soft approach and be understanding to Homolka is a ####. How the hell did she get into the school when a police background check is supposed to be done? This is on the school and the administration and I expect them to be accountable. If this was my daughters school I would be raising hell and pulling her out. Unacceptable to have a serial killer volunteering with children. The principle is a #### too.

I have no idea what a #### is but I absolutely agree with you.

[northcrunk]

It's used to describe someone who is getting screwed over and is just willing to sit there and take it. Like a beta male. A little like how aussies use *unt

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Maybe you need to freshen up a little about exactly what she did to her sister and other teenage girls. It's not about her kids and all as there's no indication they have been denied anything. This is about the other children and their parents in the school. As has been stated she never even tried reforming herself in prison and has never shown to be truly remorseful. I think the day she decided to have children she should have fully considered the implications of bringing them into the world knowing how it may be difficult for them but that's another argument entirely. Her volunteering in schools simply shouldn't happen in any capacity but at the end of the day it's at the discretion of the school and if that school is okay with it then I'm probably pulling my kids out of it if I'm a parent.

And maybe thats where we've taken a wrong turn.

Kick it up a few levels and maybe have the Provincial Education Minister step in and say: "Hey, whoa guys, this is not okay."

It blows me away because similarly to CC, I've had to have Police Checks done in order to coach soccer, I once lost my assistant coach for 6 months because he shared a first name and birthdate with someone who had committed a robbery and these people are allowing a morally ambiguous murderess into a school?

I dont half a rat's ass if her kids go there.

I feel really sorry for those kids. Thats going to be one hell of a mindjob one day. At least they get their father's last name so they may not be instantly recognized for the rest of their lives.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

It's used to describe someone who is getting screwed over and is just willing to sit there and take it. Like a beta male. A little like how aussies use *unt

Pretty sure that other c-word is quite applicable here too.

[EldrickOnIce]

It's pretty simple regarding background checks.
If you are involved as a significant participant in activities with children, you need a background check. If you go on an occasional field trip, or similar, you do not need a background check.
The better question is why the school went along. Obviously they knew who she is, but allowed her to participate in a few activities anyway, where if a background check had been required, she would have been banned from volunteering. Shows horrible judgement on the part of the school, imo.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

It's pretty simple regarding background checks.
If you are involved as a significant participant in activities with children, you need a background check. If you go on an occasional field trip, or similar, you do not need a background check.
The better question is why the school went along. Obviously they knew who she is, but allowed her to participate in a few activities anyway, where if a background check had been required, she would have been banned from volunteering. Shows horrible judgement on the part of the school, imo.

Afraid of being murdered?

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Locke

And maybe thats where we've taken a wrong turn.

Kick it up a few levels and maybe have the Provincial Education Minister step in and say: "Hey, whoa guys, this is not okay."

It blows me away because similarly to CC, I've had to have Police Checks done in order to coach soccer, I once lost my assistant coach for 6 months because he shared a first name and birthdate with someone who had committed a robbery and these people are allowing a morally ambiguous murderess into a school?

I dont half a rat's ass if her kids go there.

I feel really sorry for those kids. Thats going to be one hell of a mindjob one day. At least they get their father's last name so they may not be instantly recognized for the rest of their lives.

I had to to a background check to go on field trips at my daughters school, I got called in for secondary screening as I shared a birthday with someone in Canada who had a record, so I had to do fingerprints etc- Not sure how she was able to get clearance.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Afraid of being murdered?

Why did I laugh, it feels so wrong.

[speede5]

A background check is not simply used to disqualify volunteers, it alerts the organization of any issues/history and the organization can then decide on accepting the volunteer with or without conditions.

It sounds like they knew the background and imposed conditions. Not sure how a background check has any value added or would change anything.

Whether or not the conditions were reasonable or even having her help out was a good idea is debatable.

[Coys1882]

It's a crazy story but I don't believe all schools have background checks to volunteer if your child attends there. I know I didn't have one done.

Realistically - I think the last person who is going to murder or harm your kids is Karla Homolka. I mean if something happens can you think of ANYONE else they'd interview and suspect before her? LOL - she might even be overprotective to a fault.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

It's a crazy story but I don't believe all schools have background checks to volunteer if your child attends there. I know I didn't have one done.

Realistically - I think the last person who is going to murder or harm your kids is Karla Homolka. I mean if something happens can you think of ANYONE else they'd interview and suspect before her? LOL - she might even be overprotective to a fault.

No don't worry about Bob volunteering, just because he insists on the kids calling him uncle bob and he really loves nap time when we turn the lights out, oh and he had a criminal conviction or two for child molestation. But don't worry if something happens, he's the first one we're going to question.

But then again he might be over protective, but don't worry we can totally trust the child molester if something happens.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

No don't worry about Bob volunteering, just because he insists on the kids calling him uncle bob and he really loves nap time when we turn the lights out, oh and he had a criminal conviction or two for child molestation. But don't worry if something happens, he's the first one we're going to question.

But then again he might be over protective, but don't worry we can totally trust the child molester if something happens.

Yah but Uncle Bob doesn't have international notoriety does he? Uncle Bob will fly under the radar.

[metallicat]

Yeah, you're right. I'd let Karla freaking Homolka babysit my kid. I mean, what can go wrong? She probably won't do anything, and if something happens they'll at least have a suspect. LOL!

[Coys1882]

LOL - babysit? I thought we were talking about her washing off some paintbrushes, or stapling some book order forms together - all while under the supervision of a teacher. Yah she's totally going to murder some kids with chalkboard erasers

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

LOL - babysit? I thought we were talking about her washing off some paintbrushes, or stapling some book order forms together - all while under the supervision of a teacher. Yah she's totally going to murder some kids with chalkboard erasers

I see what you're getting at, instead of paying to lock her up for the rest of her life we should force her into a life of slavery as the Janitor of some random middle-school.

Makes sense. Free labour. The Union would have a fit though.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

To catch up here, is the story that the school does not normally insist upon a police check, didn't in this case, or that she passed the police check? I too have gone through the police check in Calgary, and it seemed pretty robust in reviewing records.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

LOL, you're not a parent are you?

Not that I agree with ToewsFan, but that's not a good argument either.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Not that I agree with ToewsFan, but that's not a good argument either.

I really doubt ToewsFan has kids, yet he's willing to allow Homolka around kids. That's why him not being a parent is relevant IMO. It shouldn't take having kids to have that opinion but I also didn't think I'd see people nearly defending Karla Homolka, yet here we are.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by aaronck

I had to to a background check to go on field trips at my daughters school, I got called in for secondary screening as I shared a birthday with someone in Canada who had a record, so I had to do fingerprints etc- Not sure how she was able to get clearance.

Did they show you the computer stuff that does finger print searches?