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Old 09-22-2014, 08:30 AM   #61
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In fairness to Yakupov, I don't think he intended to pick Setoguchi. I thought it was deliberate at first, but on the replays, he looked more like a guy simply floating with his head in the clouds. I don't think Yakupov even saw Setoguchi until the last second.
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A lot of my thoughts will echo Savvy's...

Disappointing for both sides has to be the play of their #10s. I don't think Knight really made an impact last night, save for one really good shot off the bar late. Kid needs to step it up next time out. On the other side, Yakupov was clearly the most talented player the Oilers sent to Calgary, and I felt he was largely a passenger. He played like he has nothing to prove, and nothing to improve.

On the flip side of Yakupov was Monahan. He wanted to be a leading player for the Flames, and it showed. Five shots, eight shot attempts, three takeaways, dominated the faceoff dot.

Loved Gaudreau's ability to find the puck in space. Not quite sure yet if he should bypass Adirondack. Want to see him a bit more.

Setoguchi was pretty poor to start, but got better throughout. Would like to see a lot more from him.

Engelland looked fairly steady out there. Would like to see him match up against NHL-calibre opposition.

Hiller handling the puck is going to be an adventure.
What was his faceoff % last night? It looked like he lost every faceoff I saw him take (I only started watching partway through the 3rd though).
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...In regards to Yakupov, he still doesn't use his linemates. He did the classic 1 on 4 lose the puck and his patented skate around the entire zone and take a wrist shot from the middle at the blue line. Granted he was playing with garbage (Oilers definitely do not have the bodies to take part in split squad games). I also think his interference/pick was garbage. It was obvious he doesn't know how to set a pick in the defensive zone since he is so used to flying the zone...
My favourite was at 01:43 of the highlights when he leaves the zone for a two-on-one without the puck.

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what was his faceoff % last night? It looked like he lost every faceoff i saw him take (i only started watching partway through the 3rd though).
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What was his faceoff % last night? It looked like he lost every faceoff I saw him take (I only started watching partway through the 3rd though).
65%. 11 for 17.
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What was his faceoff % last night? It looked like he lost every faceoff I saw him take (I only started watching partway through the 3rd though).
Funny, I thought the same thing too. I was even going to make a post about how Monahan needs some definite faceoff work, until I saw his winning %.

I thought Engellend had a great game. Solid on the puck, physical. Not the pylon he was made out to be. I think he'll be a great addition over the duration of his contract.
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In fairness to Yakupov, I don't think he intended to pick Setoguchi. I thought it was deliberate at first, but on the replays, he looked more like a guy simply floating with his head in the clouds. I don't think Yakupov even saw Setoguchi until the last second.
That is the thing that kind of puzzles me with the play. Normally Yakupov would be the first one out of the zone when his team has the puck. Just a weird place and time for him going for a skate, which is partly the reason I think it was garbage. At this level you have to have some degree of awareness especially since it was pretty much a straight line.
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From TJ's goal, it looked like he worked on his shot or something. I was surprised at how hard of a shot he put into that goal.
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Funny, I thought the same thing too. I was even going to make a post about how Monahan needs some definite faceoff work, until I saw his winning %.

I thought Engellend had a great game. Solid on the puck, physical. Not the pylon he was made out to be. I think he'll be a great addition over the duration of his contract.
Pens Fans made him out to be.

Engellend was overpaid as a UFA, sure. But he's a serviceable bottom pairing d-man that plays Burke/Treliving hockey. That's what he was brought in for and hopefully he can serve as a smoother skating Sarich, even if the booms aren't as thunderous.
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Old 09-22-2014, 10:56 AM   #70
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That is the thing that kind of puzzles me with the play. Normally Yakupov would be the first one out of the zone when his team has the puck. Just a weird place and time for him going for a skate, which is partly the reason I think it was garbage. At this level you have to have some degree of awareness especially since it was pretty much a straight line.
Agreed. And that is why I think Oiler fans should be concerned. The guy simply didn't seem interested, or aware. A truly bizarre attitude from someone who clearly should know he has something to prove. The fact that he was sent to Calgary to play with the scrubs rather than staying in Edmonton with the core should have been a sign for him.
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That is the thing that kind of puzzles me with the play. Normally Yakupov would be the first one out of the zone when his team has the puck. Just a weird place and time for him going for a skate, which is partly the reason I think it was garbage. At this level you have to have some degree of awareness especially since it was pretty much a straight line.
You're basing your argument around the supposition that Yak has an average hockey IQ.

He doesn't.
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There seemed to be no excitement in his voice.
How excited should he be about a 1-0 split-squad pre-season game?
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...followed by the remark, "and I didn't like that." He did not look or sound at all pleased when he said it.
Thanks for the clarification. I thought that was a compliment reading that.
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It seemed fairly obvious that it was accidental. He flinched at the last second and tried to get out of the way, he seems to have the sniper mentality of waiting for breakaways or shots from the slot and the rest of the time he's just floating around with his in the clouds dreaming about vodka or whatever Russians like to think about.
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It seemed fairly obvious that it was accidental. He flinched at the last second and tried to get out of the way, he seems to have the sniper mentality of waiting for breakaways or shots from the slot and the rest of the time he's just floating around with his in the clouds dreaming about vodka or whatever Russians like to think about.
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That 1-0 game was very uneventful and boring if you ask me. The oilers were clearly out shot badly in the first half of the game, but it seemed the stat keeper missed some shots. I'm pretty sure I heard Loubardias point this out on the play by play too (he is the announcer correct? hard to not recognize that voice.)
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There were 2 saves by Hiller in that first that I know weren't counted as shots.

A one-timer that Hiller got his stick on that tipped it out of play, and then that close in chance off the backboards.
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There were 2 saves by Hiller in that first that I know weren't counted as shots.

A one-timer that Hiller got his stick on that tipped it out of play, and then that close in chance off the backboards.
He directed a couple into the corner that didn't get counted. Perhaps they deemed that the shots were going wide.
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That 1-0 game was very uneventful and boring if you ask me. The oilers were clearly out shot badly in the first half of the game, but it seemed the stat keeper missed some shots. I'm pretty sure I heard Loubardias point this out on the play by play too (he is the announcer correct? hard to not recognize that voice.)
The opposite, actually. The third shot Edmonton was credited with hit the outside of the net. They double-counted the following shot, and randomly added another late in the intermission.

The issue was more that when Edmonton even got to the point of attempting the shot, they either missed entirely, or were blocked. Two shots in the first 35 minutes was a fair assessment of their productivity to that point. They did get better in the final 25, obviously.
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65%. 11 for 17.
The Flames site is linking way better stats this season then before. Just click on the game, choose stats and make your choice.

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreport...5/FC010004.HTM
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