Nhl says no to jersey ads - and $120m windfall

[Igottago]

I would hate this, and I say that as a huge soccer fan. Hockey jerseys are such a beatuiful and symbolic part of the game, many with lots of history. Its probably inevitable though. I can only hope that when it happens, its at least somewhat tastefully done. If they ever remove the logo on the chest in favour of ads it would be a tragedy.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by polak

And I disagree. I stand by my assumption that 100% of people who already regularly purchase jerseys would eventually continue to buy them should they add a logo in the same vein as Soccer jerseys.

I won't even buy a current jersey because of the flags on the shoulders (the blue against the red looks terrible)...I definitely won't be buying one when there's some Bank/Telecom/Energy company plastered all over it.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by troutman

If this increases revenues, does the NHL owe it to the players to do it? Or to fans, if it could keep ticket costs down?

Do they have a duty to tradition to keep uniforms from becoming ugly?

Ticket prices are not a function of revenues.

[codynw]

Advertisements would actually improve the current third jerseys. That's how bad they are.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by codynw

You're still wrong. I'm not buying a jersey that has ads on it. Don't care where they are or how small they are, I'm not going to do it.

Pretty much. It's as classless to have a microwave manufacturer's logo plastered across your chest and it is to have a clothing maker's name/logo. Only people without style wear logo shirts.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by polak

BTW I'm arguing that you would buy them if they were like soccer jerseys. Not Euro hockey jerseys. Those are dumb. Do people even buy them en masse in europe like we do here?

I would not buy those either. Soccer jerseys may not be as gaudy as the hockey examples given, but they are no less of a joke. Likewise, the fact that millions of sheep run to the trough to buy them also does not make the idea any less of a joke.

As to your idiotic "100% would buy them" argument, you are completely wrong. I won't buy the current primary jerseys because I hate the design. But I've bought every other one released since 2003. And the current design isn't burdened with corporate greed.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by polak

I 100% guarantee that EVERY person who already buys NHL Jerseys will eventually continue to do so regardless.

Flames draft McDavid or whatever next hot shot prospect and you're telling me you won't get his jersey because there is an ad on the front?

I call B.S. Every single person will get over it, like every single person has got over advertising on everything else we own.

I 100% guarantee you are wrong. Like literally wrong. Because I will never buy a jersey with advertisements on it. So you are 100% literally wrong. No hyperbole needed.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by troutman

If this increases revenues, does the NHL owe it to the players to do it? Or to fans, if it could keep ticket costs down?

Do they have a duty to tradition to keep uniforms from becoming ugly?

ha ha - i would think that the only thing that would lower the cost of tickets is a long sustained reduction in the demand for tickets.

i think that without a doubt, eventually all NHL jersey will like those in euorpean hockey or soccer - team logos will likely be replaced by corporate logos - this new found revenue will be just that.

to me it would be interesting to see what would happen if teams made an annoucement that they are going ahead with logos on jerseys - would fans make a real run on the last of the plain jerseys.

I know I would not be keen to drop $200 on something red witht he logos of joe's oilfield services on it all over the place........

[codynw]

This is so beautiful. I hope the NHL does something exactly like this. Having the team's logo on the front is stupid anyways.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Ticket prices are not a function of revenues.

It's like y'all are waiting to pounce on every bad post I make. Will try to be perfect.

[Arya Stark]

I won't even buy a jersey if I think it's ugly, but somehow I am going to love wearing a jersey with Mcdonalds, and Coca-Cola all over it because Polak 100% guaranteed it? Yeah, no.

[polak]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I really enjoy that you continue to stand by your assertion, even when proven wrong. Even when you have been provided with evidence that completely contradicts your feelings, you continue to push forward, looking even more foolish with each post. Jenny McCarthy and Donald Trump would be proud of you.

http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-s...ination-2014-6



I've bought about 20 jerseys. If the Flames went the way of the soccer jerseys, I wouldn't buy one. It's that simple. I'd continue to wear the ones I've already purchased to games. If they put a patch or something similar to the CFL jerseys, it wouldn't stop me from buying one. Your stance that I would 100% buy one, is 100% wrong. I don't know how to be any more clear. Your unwavering view here isn't surprising though.

A) People saying "I won't buy one" is not evidence against my claim. Guess what, I bet almost everyone says "I won't do meth" at one point in their lives, yet people still do it. Just cause you say you won't buy it now doesn't mean you won't buy one when the Flames are in the cup final and you really want a Gaudreau jersey after he scores 12 goals against Seattle.

B) Pretty much all of you are ignoring the part of my claim where I say "those who already regulary buy jerseys". If you, for example, don't own the current jersey of your favorite team (let alone multiples like I was inferring) then you don't fall in that category. If people like that stop buying jerseys then the NHL has a problem. Casual fans / Merch buyers are influenced by way too many outside factors anyways for this to be a significant factor.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by polak

A) People saying "I won't buy one" is not evidence against my claim. Guess what, I bet almost everyone says "I won't do meth", yet people still do it. Just cause you say you won't buy it now doesn't mean you won't buy one when the Flames are in the cup final and you really want a Gaudreau jersey after he scores 12 goals against Seattle.

B) Pretty much all of you are ignoring the part of my claim where I say "those who already regulary buy jerseys". If you, for example, don't own the current jersey of your favorite team (let alone multiples like I was inferring) then you don't fall in that category. If people like that stop buying jerseys then the NHL has a problem. Casual fans / Merch buyers are influenced by way too many outside factors anyways for this to be a significant factor.

Do 100% of people who say "I won't do meth" change their mind and do meth? No.

You are wrong, period.

[Muta]

They can put logos on their jerseys as long as they make NHL Gamecenter free.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by codynw

This is so beautiful. I hope the NHL does something exactly like this. Having the team's logo on the front is stupid anyways.

That is a nicely designed jersey that is lucky to be sponsored by a company with a tasteful logo...but when have the Flames ever shown that type of aesthetic refinement? If the Flames ever do something like this, imagine that jersey with some dry O/G logo (remember Pengrowth?) on the front, some horseys or boots on the shoulders, and some quadruple-piped web-safe fonts all around.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Do 100% of people who say "I won't do meth" change their mind and do meth? No.

You are wrong, period.

How many of those people who have done meth regularly before and say that go back and smoke meth again? Most? I'd say most unless they seek professional help.

Now considering the fact that buying a jersey doesn't kill you...

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Table 5

That is a nicely designed jersey that is lucky to be sponsored by a company with a tasteful logo...but when have the Flames ever shown that type of aesthetic refinement? If the Flames ever do something like this, imagine that jersey with some boring O/G logo (remember Pengrowth?) on the front, some horseys or boots on the shoulders, and some quadruple-piped web-safe fonts all around.

Yea, I was 100% not serious. I think that jersey looks like ####.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by polak

How many of those people who have done meth regularly before and say that go back and smoke meth again? Most? I'd say most unless they seek professional help.

Now considering the fact that buying a jersey doesn't kill you...

You're comparing buying a jersey to smoking meth?

[codynw]

smoking meth > buying jerseys with ads on them

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by codynw

Yea, I was 100% not serious. I think that jersey looks like ####.

Serious or not, that is about as good as one can hope for sponsored jersey designs. You really better hope the sponsor has a decent logo, or you're out of luck.