Flames sign Lance Bouma - 1 Year Contract ($775k)

[StrykerSteve]

^^^ I've never seen that one, that's awesome lol

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by getbak

He was never going to get 3 years. It was always going to be either one or two because in two years, he'll still be an RFA. In three years, he can become a UFA.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bouma was the one who wanted the one-year deal. He'll have arbitration rights next year, so that will give him extra leverage for his next negotiation.

With Boumo working on his puck skills this summer, he may expect to increase his offensive numbers and thus raise his value too, so yeah he may have been the one to want the one year contract.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

When everyone is healthy that's where he should be. It would have been the same last year. But when you have Glencross miss over half the games, Cammalleri and Stajan miss 20, Stempniak traded, even Jones being injured there was room for him to move up. Which isn't bad, a player capable of playing on the PK, a regular 4th line shift and move up the depth chart in a pinch is still a solid player.

It is amazing that regular posters here understand so little about the make up of hockey teams.

The whole year. with whoever was in the line up.. Bouma's rookie year he was very seldom on the 4th line (the McGrattan line).

Very few teams roll 4 lines.


On successful NHL teams always has to be at least 1 or 2 Bouma type players in in your top 9 forwards.

Of the players that missed time last year to give Bouma ice-time none provides what Bouma does. Hartley knows what he is getting every time he sends Bouma out.

Yelle maxed out at 10 goals /year, but never was a 4th line player.

Stoll is the 4th or 5th most talented centre on the Kings Kopitar, Richards, Carter, Toffilli, yet he doesn't get moved to the 4th line.

Prust has 4th line scoring skills but hasn't been on a 4th line since he left the Flames.

Bouma may get forced to the 4th line but this would be because Bollig actually can play well enough to move into the top-9....

I wouldn't be surprised if both Bouma and Bollig get 12-14 minutes a game.


Maybe the 4th line gets rolled Bruins/Ranger style but then McGrattan presents a problem and the Flames lack the lead dog that can be double shifted on the 4th line.... Hudler/Backlund?

[heep223]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

It is amazing that regular posters here understand so little about the make up of hockey teams.

The whole year. with whoever was in the line up.. Bouma's rookie year he was very seldom on the 4th line (the McGrattan line).

Very few teams roll 4 lines.


On successful NHL teams always has to be at least 1 or 2 Bouma type players in in your top 9 forwards.

Of the players that missed time last year to give Bouma ice-time none provides what Bouma does. Hartley knows what he is getting every time he sends Bouma out.

Yelle maxed out at 10 goals /year, but never was a 4th line player.

Stoll is the 4th or 5th most talented centre on the Kings Kopitar, Richards, Carter, Toffilli, yet he doesn't get moved to the 4th line.

Prust has 4th line scoring skills but hasn't been on a 4th line since he left the Flames.

Bouma may get forced to the 4th line but this would be because Bollig actually can play well enough to move into the top-9....

I wouldn't be surprised if both Bouma and Bollig get 12-14 minutes a game.


Maybe the 4th line gets rolled Bruins/Ranger style but then McGrattan presents a problem and the Flames lack the lead dog that can be double shifted on the 4th line.... Hudler/Backlund?

I never understand your posts. And they are long and you post a lot.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

It is amazing that regular posters here understand so little about the make up of hockey teams.

You know better right? How's that RGI coming? Any of the advance stat guys pick up on that yet?

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

It is amazing that regular posters here understand so little about the make up of hockey teams.



The whole year. with whoever was in the line up.. Bouma's rookie year he was very seldom on the 4th line (the McGrattan line).



Very few teams roll 4 lines.





On successful NHL teams always has to be at least 1 or 2 Bouma type players in in your top 9 forwards.



Of the players that missed time last year to give Bouma ice-time none provides what Bouma does. Hartley knows what he is getting every time he sends Bouma out.



Yelle maxed out at 10 goals /year, but never was a 4th line player.



Stoll is the 4th or 5th most talented centre on the Kings Kopitar, Richards, Carter, Toffilli, yet he doesn't get moved to the 4th line.



Prust has 4th line scoring skills but hasn't been on a 4th line since he left the Flames.



Bouma may get forced to the 4th line but this would be because Bollig actually can play well enough to move into the top-9....



I wouldn't be surprised if both Bouma and Bollig get 12-14 minutes a game.





Maybe the 4th line gets rolled Bruins/Ranger style but then McGrattan presents a problem and the Flames lack the lead dog that can be double shifted on the 4th line.... Hudler/Backlund?

I assume some of those would make sense if Prust wasn't on the 4th line repeatedly last year (here's one example), and Stoll (despite being the 4th or 5th best center) was behind Carter and Toffoli (who played on the wing) and Richards (who traded time on the 4th line), making Stoll the defacto 3rd line center.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

It is amazing that regular posters here understand so little about the make up of hockey teams.

The whole year. with whoever was in the line up.. Bouma's rookie year he was very seldom on the 4th line (the McGrattan line).

The last 5 games of the season he played on the fourth line with Westgarth and McGrattan/Van Brabant for the majority of even strength shifts. He was still capable of getting 15 minutes doing so. Some of this may have been because of players like Gaudreau and Arnold playing games, but that's also without Stempniak here.

Getting the odd shift on the second line, or sometimes more accurately having a 2nd line player get the odd shift on the fourth line, doesn't really change the fact that there is a fourth line.

[Vulcan]

Maybe the 4th line gets rolled Bruins/Ranger style but then McGrattan presents a problem and the Flames lack the lead dog that can be double shifted on the 4th line.... Hudler/Backlund?

Now that we have Bollig with Bouma at centre, I see them rolling 4 lines except as you say for McGrattan. We also may not need McGrattan to dress every game either.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I forgot how much points Bouma put up as a 4th liner. 15 points is pretty good imo. Hoping he can hit 20 next year!

[Split98]

So, how will this affect Baertschi?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Split98

So, how will this affect Baertschi?

He's got to start blocking shots if he wants Bouma's job.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Split98

So, how will this affect Baertschi?

Dunno, but it can't be good.
Don't understand why the Flames keep signing overage 4th liners and taking away spots from the rookies.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Dunno, but it can't be good.
Don't understand why the Flames keep signing overage 4th liners and taking away spots from the rookies.

Does anyone have any stats on Bouma's ice-time when facing East? This really can't be good for Baertschi. His only hope was Eastern-facing playing time.

[GreenLantern]

Bouwma reminds me of Stephen Yelle, and I would have Sandbox on my team any day of the year.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Now that we have Bollig with Bouma at centre, I see them rolling 4 lines except as you say for McGrattan. We also may not need McGrattan to dress every game either.

I honestly don't think McGrattan will play close to 82 games this year and will only dress against teams that have someone in the lineup to "watch out for". I think he'll be used more of as a deterrent and even when he dresses, they could always double shift someone for the few shifts.

[AcGold]

Dress Mcgrattan against teams with dirty players and let him play, not just for fighting. Still bothers me when Marchand hit Monahan from behind, Mcgrattan should have put some fear in him. With Bouma, Bollig and Mcgrattan it should be safe for the prospects.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Dress Mcgrattan against teams with dirty players and let him play, not just for fighting. Still bothers me when Marchand hit Monahan from behind, Mcgrattan should have put some fear in him. With Bouma, Bollig and Mcgrattan it should be safe for the prospects.

And to a lesser extent Engelland, Smid and maybe Wolf.

Next year against Van we should start the game with
Wolf/Bollig/Gratz
Engelland/Smid

[T@T]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Any word on $$$ yet?

Fairly certain it's $775k

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by T@T

Fairly certain it's $775k

I've seen $775,000 thrown around on a few forums now but no confirmation.

That would seem right on the money imo. Another year like last, especially if his offence improves like he says he's been working on, and I can see next year him being signed to a multi year 1 mil/yr ish deal.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I've seen $775,000 thrown around on a few forums now but no confirmation.

That would seem right on the money imo. Another year like last, especially if his offence improves like he says he's been working on, and I can see next year him being signed to a multi year 1 mil/yr ish deal.

I didn't get it from a forum but the chirping bird who I got it from is rairly wrong.