08-20-2014, 08:25 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Damn it guys, don't get hooked by the troll.
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08-20-2014, 08:26 AM
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#62
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
I was just talking to a local Calgary lawyer this morning so not sure how he would know the settlement details but he told me that the settlement was for $22M.
The NHL pays $15M of it with the remaining $7M split between Todd Bertuzzi and John McCaw
Take that for what it's worth.
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Not quite sure why the NHL would pay that given they weren't a party to the suit, unless the league felt it was a good business decision to help close this out. But if true, I would argue the NHLPA should have paid the same amount the NHL did. In the end, both of those bodies did far more for Bertuzzi than they did Moore, and that is a complete and utter disgrace.
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08-20-2014, 08:45 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Not quite sure why the NHL would pay that given they weren't a party to the suit, unless the league felt it was a good business decision to help close this out. But if true, I would argue the NHLPA should have paid the same amount the NHL did. In the end, both of those bodies did far more for Bertuzzi than they did Moore, and that is a complete and utter disgrace.
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I can see the NHL wanting to get rid of this and just sweeping it under the rug. They do not want any one to go on the witness stand and testify
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08-20-2014, 08:54 AM
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#64
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wedge
Disagree. Ironically Moore pulled a Canucks move with his embellishment in this scenario (numerous hospital/medical staff rumours). I expect to be ripped apart, but I feel bad for Todd who went after a coward in accordance with "the code".
Moore pulled a pretty cheap shot on Naslund. Down the road in a blowout game, Bertuzzi says to Moore that it's time to answer the bell. Moore declines, and Bertuzzi shows him that's not an option. In hindsight everyone would be happier if Moore "manned up" and simply got his nose broken.
Rip away.
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I love it. Pulls the pin, throws it in the room, and closes the door.
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08-20-2014, 10:58 AM
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#65
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Wedge
Disagree. Ironically Moore pulled a Canucks move with his embellishment in this scenario (numerous hospital/medical staff rumours). I expect to be ripped apart, but I feel bad for Todd who went after a coward in accordance with "the code".
Moore pulled a pretty cheap shot on Naslund. Down the road in a blowout game, Bertuzzi says to Moore that it's time to answer the bell. Moore declines, and Bertuzzi shows him that's not an option. In hindsight everyone would be happier if Moore "manned up" and simply got his nose broken.
Rip away.
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You can stop auditioning, they don't hire village idiots anymore.
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08-20-2014, 11:08 AM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wedge
Disagree. Ironically Moore pulled a Canucks move with his embellishment in this scenario (numerous hospital/medical staff rumours). I expect to be ripped apart, but I feel bad for Todd who went after a coward in accordance with "the code".
Moore pulled a pretty cheap shot on Naslund. Down the road in a blowout game, Bertuzzi says to Moore that it's time to answer the bell. Moore declines, and Bertuzzi shows him that's not an option. In hindsight everyone would be happier if Moore "manned up" and simply got his nose broken.
Rip away.
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Hahahaha.
Thanks for this.
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08-20-2014, 11:19 AM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wedge
Disagree. Ironically Moore pulled a Canucks move with his embellishment in this scenario (numerous hospital/medical staff rumours). I expect to be ripped apart, but I feel bad for Todd who went after a coward in accordance with "the code".
Moore pulled a pretty cheap shot on Naslund. Down the road in a blowout game, Bertuzzi says to Moore that it's time to answer the bell. Moore declines, and Bertuzzi shows him that's not an option. In hindsight everyone would be happier if Moore "manned up" and simply got his nose broken.
Rip away.
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Are you following this post up with "The Canucks would have totally beat the Flames in '04 if they had Bertuzzi"?
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08-20-2014, 11:24 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wedge
Disagree. Ironically Moore pulled a Canucks move with his embellishment in this scenario (numerous hospital/medical staff rumours). I expect to be ripped apart, but I feel bad for Todd who went after a coward in accordance with "the code".
Moore pulled a pretty cheap shot on Naslund. Down the road in a blowout game, Bertuzzi says to Moore that it's time to answer the bell. Moore declines, and Bertuzzi shows him that's not an option. In hindsight everyone would be happier if Moore "manned up" and simply got his nose broken.
Rip away.
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08-20-2014, 12:07 PM
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#70
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Are you following this post up with "The Canucks would have totally beat the Flames in '04 if they had Bertuzzi"?
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Tbh....that probably is true...Thugtuzzi was one of the top power forwards in the NHL in 2004...was a beast with Naslund.....so probably not the best example to use against a troll effort.
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08-20-2014, 12:15 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by robaur
Tbh....that probably is true...Thugtuzzi was one of the top power forwards in the NHL in 2004...was a beast with Naslund.....so probably not the best example to use against a troll effort.
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not this again, so many factors...Flames were also missing players, Vancouver added at the deadline due to the loss
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08-20-2014, 12:24 PM
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#72
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robaur
Tbh....that probably is true...Thugtuzzi was one of the top power forwards in the NHL in 2004...was a beast with Naslund.....so probably not the best example to use against a troll effort.
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Actually, it likely isn't. One of the most overlooked aspects of that nonsense is that Bertuzzi was already in decline before his cowardly assault. He was still getting assists because his linemates were carrying his ass, but his goal scoring dropped off a cliff, and he was taking a lot more penalties. He was a liability as much as he was an asset at times. (iirc, he managed to pick up a triple minor against Calgary earlier that season.)
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08-20-2014, 12:26 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Actually, it likely isn't. One of the most overlooked aspects of that nonsense is that Bertuzzi was already in decline before his cowardly assault. He was still getting assists because his linemates were carrying his ass, but his goal scoring dropped off a cliff, and he was taking a lot more penalties. He was a liability as much as he was an asset at times. (iirc, he managed to pick up a triple minor against Calgary earlier that season.)
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and yet the Flames still signed him..........
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08-20-2014, 12:35 PM
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#74
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
and yet the Flames still signed him..........
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One of the dumbest moves in franchise history too. I am on record as pointing to that as the start of the team's decline into what we are now.
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08-20-2014, 12:56 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fleury
I was actually really looking forward to the day in court where Moore could publically speak his mind. Todd was never the same either after the incident, but Moore really deserved his day in court. Anyone who know anything about law probably knew this was going to be settled last minute, but it really seemed like Moore wanted to air out his grievances.
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Maybe Moore's case wasn't that open and shut and he was motivated to settle.
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08-20-2014, 01:17 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
I was just talking to a local Calgary lawyer this morning so not sure how he would know the settlement details but he told me that the settlement was for $22M.
The NHL pays $15M of it with the remaining $7M split between Todd Bertuzzi and John McCaw
Take that for what it's worth.
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Global had the same numbers last night, said Bertuzzi would only end up paying 2-3m
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08-20-2014, 01:20 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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The Canucks say it's done:
“@SNHockeyCentral: “Canucks Sports & Entertainment confirms that a mutually agreeable and confidential settlement of the action commenced by Steve Moore against Todd Bertuzzi and the Vancouver Canucks has been reached."
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08-20-2014, 05:09 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Maybe Moore's case wasn't that open and shut and he was motivated to settle.
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Perhaps, but it was a civil case which means beyond the balance of probabilities, and the fact that Bertuzzi made all those incriminating quotes before doing the deed, showed to me a ton of premeditation. I don't think getting journalists who were there who all quoted him, would be hard to get to testify, but the truth of the matter is that it's said that 95% of civil cases are settled before going to trial. I expected Moore to really have his day in court so I'm somewhat puzzled that he went that easily for the cash 2 weeks before trial. I'd think a lot of money was thrown his way for him to do that.
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08-20-2014, 05:43 PM
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#79
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Steve Moore’s brother denies settlement with Todd Bertuzzi
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A cloud of uncertainty has descended over the settlement agreement that was believed to have been reached between Steve Moore and Todd Bertuzzi, with Moore’s older brother telling a reporter there is “no deal yet,” while the Vancouver Canucks issued a release to say a conclusion “has been reached.”
Speaking with TSN on Wednesday, Mark Moore said his brother told him through a text message “there is no deal yet” and that Steve Moore was not “sure what to do about all the media speculation” that a deal had been reached.
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http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/...todd-bertuzzi/
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08-21-2014, 12:13 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Clarification. Deal reached.
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A lawyer representing Todd Bertuzzi has fired back at Steve Moore’s older brother for suggesting a settlement agreement has not been reached between the parties in their long-running civil case, saying Mark Moore’s comments were out of line. Geoff Adair, said on Tuesday that a “firm and binding” agreement that was “enforceable by a court” had been reached by all parties involved. On Wednesday, Mark Moore threw cold water on that assertion, telling TSN he had received a text message from his younger brother saying, “there is no deal yet.”
Hours later, the Vancouver Canucks, who were also named in the suit, issued a statement to say that, yes, a settlement agreement had in fact been reached.
“Mark Moore is not a party to this lawsuit and does not know what he is talking about nor is he very smart to have made untrue defamatory statements such as these,” Adair told the National Post on Thursday.
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http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/...m-and-binding/
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