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View Poll Results: Do you know how to swim?
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08-18-2014, 09:19 AM
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#61
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My cousin got caught in a rip tide for over an hour last summer, and people didn't realize he was in trouble until after that hour. He didn't know that you have to swim parallel to shore, so he fought it the entire time. Finally someone realized he was in trouble and swam out to save him, but not before he had completely exhausted himself. Ended up in the hospital for a bit to recover.
That's just terrifying. I don't think I would have lasted that long.
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08-18-2014, 09:34 AM
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#62
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by V
My cousin got caught in a rip tide for over an hour last summer, and people didn't realize he was in trouble until after that hour. He didn't know that you have to swim parallel to shore, so he fought it the entire time. Finally someone realized he was in trouble and swam out to save him, but not before he had completely exhausted himself. Ended up in the hospital for a bit to recover.
That's just terrifying. I don't think I would have lasted that long.
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Growing up and spending a lot of time near and in the ocean this has always been a slight fear of mine. I've always known how to get out of a rip tide I've just (thankfully) never had to actually do it. It's one of those things that while I feel totally comfortable in the water it's important to respect the dangers regardless of how skilled I may be.
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08-18-2014, 09:34 AM
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#63
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In the Sin Bin
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I'd consider myself a decent swimmer. Definitely love being in the water as long as it's not cold as balls. I've never tried swimming distance but I can swim pretty quick for what that is worth. Now I'm curious...
Definitely agree with everyone saying that swimming is something that should be a universal skill but I also understand how people could end up not learning how to. I just hope they realize the value of knowing how to swim and look at it as more than a recreational thing (literally a life saving thing to know) and try to make sure their kids don't end up in the same boat (HA, get it?)
I'm shocked an adult could drown in Sicome as well. I was swimming across that lake when I was 10. How did he get deep enough to drown?
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08-18-2014, 10:37 AM
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#64
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Originally Posted by polak
I'm shocked an adult could drown in Sicome as well. I was swimming across that lake when I was 10. How did he get deep enough to drown?
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In rivers, flush drowning (this may be a kayaker oriented term), can happen as a swimmer goes up and down in swells and their timing for breathing at the top of a wave is off. The swimmer swallows water, panics, tires, and can drown. I imagine the same thing could happen in a shallow lake depending on the persons panic level, inability to stay at the surface to get air...
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08-18-2014, 10:54 AM
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#65
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by polak
I'm shocked an adult could drown in Sicome as well. I was swimming across that lake when I was 10. How did he get deep enough to drown?
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Did you even read the OP? He couldn't swim and there are parts of Sikome that is 2 meters deep. Seems pretty straight forward how a non swimmer could drown.
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08-18-2014, 11:06 AM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Arya Stark
Did you even read the OP? He couldn't swim and there are parts of Sikome that is 2 meters deep. Seems pretty straight forward how a non swimmer could drown.
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It also seems pretty sad.
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08-18-2014, 11:08 AM
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#67
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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One skill I learned was being able to equalize the pressure in your ears manually, which comes in handy when not swimming (flying, driving into the mountains, etc).
I thought most people were buoyant if their lungs were full? Maybe that's part of it, when someone's panicking they aren't keeping their lungs fully inflated.
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08-18-2014, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
It also seems pretty sad.
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What does?
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08-18-2014, 11:23 AM
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#69
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Arya Stark
What does?
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The death of a father and husband.
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08-18-2014, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
The death of a father and husband.
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Oh, ok I think that goes without saying unless you meant something by quoting my post.
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08-18-2014, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Arya Stark
Oh, ok I think that goes without saying unless you meant something by quoting my post.
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nope, just that it is sad.
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08-18-2014, 11:30 AM
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#72
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Huh, found this interesting:
http://www.drownproofing.com/
Also saw some advice for adults trying to learn to swim, learn in a salt water pool since you'll be more buoyant, or learn in a wetsuit. Then you can learn to swim without worrying about staying above water as much, then as you get the swimming down you can adjust for being less buoyant easier.
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08-18-2014, 11:33 AM
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#73
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Another important piece of information related to this story, is how to recognize someone is drowning. I don't think in this case, people were oblivious to the fact he was in trouble, but the idea that drowning people thrash about, yelling for help, is false:
http://mariovittone.com/2010/05/154/
Often people in real trouble - don't look like they are in real trouble.
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08-18-2014, 11:34 AM
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On photon's note, even if you don't want to/"can't" learn how to swim, you should at very least do yourself the favour of teaching yourself to float. To float, first and foremost, you need to be calm, so you need to get yourself comfortable with being in water.
I swam competitively as a teenager, to the point where it kind of ruined recreational swimming in general for me. I still enjoy it, but never actively seek out the opportunity to do it.
Swimming is in my opinion an essential life skill. Not only is it necessary for survival in rare instances, but it opens up a whole different part of the human experience and it a vital part of saying "I lived." I don't mean to oversell it, as it really is just swimming, but it's one of those simple joys that allows you to live a life unrestricted by fear or ability. We owe it to those who are unable. I think everyone who can, even if they're adults, should take swimming lessons and become proficient enough to survive (if not enjoy themselves).
+ drunk swimming is the bomb.
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08-18-2014, 11:38 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
On photon's note, even if you don't want to/"can't" learn how to swim, you should at very least do yourself the favour of teaching yourself to float. To float, first and foremost, you need to be calm, so you need to get yourself comfortable with being in water.
I swam competitively as a teenager, to the point where it kind of ruined recreational swimming in general for me. I still enjoy it, but never actively seek out the opportunity to do it.
Swimming is in my opinion an essential life skill. Not only is it necessary for survival in rare instances, but it opens up a whole different part of the human experience and it a vital part of saying "I lived." I don't mean to oversell it, as it really is just swimming, but it's one of those simple joys that allows you to live a life unrestricted by fear or ability. We owe it to those who are unable. I think everyone who can, even if they're adults, should take swimming lessons and become proficient enough to survive (if not enjoy themselves).
+ drunk & naked swimming is the bomb.
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Fixed your post.
It is one of the things I miss about my wife/life now she is older.....
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08-18-2014, 11:39 AM
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#76
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
On photon's note, even if you don't want to/"can't" learn how to swim, you should at very least do yourself the favour of teaching yourself to float. To float, first and foremost, you need to be calm, so you need to get yourself comfortable with being in water.
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Umm yeah good luck with that. The fact that someone can't swim is precisely the reason they aren't calm and comfortable in the water.
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08-18-2014, 11:41 AM
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#77
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Often people in real trouble - don't look like they are in real trouble.
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Originally Posted by The Article
In ten percent of those drownings, the adult will actually watch them do it, having no idea it is happening.
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08-18-2014, 11:47 AM
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#78
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Umm yeah good luck with that. The fact that someone can't swim is precisely the reason they aren't calm and comfortable in the water.
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Well of course. That's obvious.
That is why you learn.
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08-18-2014, 11:50 AM
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#79
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deep South
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Originally Posted by photon
One skill I learned was being able to equalize the pressure in your ears manually, which comes in handy when not swimming (flying, driving into the mountains, etc).
I thought most people were buoyant if their lungs were full? Maybe that's part of it, when someone's panicking they aren't keeping their lungs fully inflated.
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I think this is an over-simplification. I am an okay swimmer, feel comfortable enough to be in open water for maybe 10-20 minutes or so treading water. However, I cannot float very well at all. Even with a deep breath in, if I'm not treading, then I just start to sink.
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08-18-2014, 12:22 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by mrkajz44
I think this is an over-simplification.
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I don't think it's an oversimplification, most doesn't mean all, and it was a question. I'm pretty sure I read most people float (maybe not in a very comfortable position or convenient one). And I don't mean float so half the body is above the water, I mean float so just some skin is above the surface or just below the surface.
More muscle and less fat of course means less floaty too.
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