Summer 2014 Prospect Ranking Poll Rd8 - Page 4 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

edslunch · 07-20-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

For those voting for Gillies over Ortio, I'm a little confused by that. Ortio has done more in his career so far and has shown no indication he can't be an NHL player. Oh well, it's a good problem to have either way.

Agreed, especially since Burke is on record saying Gillies had a disappointing season and he doesn't know if he will be an NHLer yet.

Pierre "Monster" McGuire · 07-20-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cral12

Went with the Big Jankowski as well. I'm hard on goalies in general but did consider Gillies & Ortio here as well. I almost went way off the board to be the 1st & only to select Brett Kulak here. I know - I admit I'm a little insane, maybe suffer from Rink-Induced Brain Freeze Syndrome, but I have been huge on Kulak since his draft eligible year - more than any other draft/prospect service/outlet out there.
Here was my pre-2012 Draft feature on Kulak.

Kulak will likely get my vote next rnd.

Watching Kulak with the Heat, he's so unbelievably smooth with the puck. He looks identical to Brodie at the same juncture of his career. They're very similar players.

AC · 07-20-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Stupid

I voted Reinhart for a second time.

It's been mentioned before but when has a guy who's shown as much as he has been our 8th or higher prospect?

Yeah its starting to get difficult in terms of separating a larger group of players but its a really promising process to go through mentally as you realize how intriguing our prospect pool has become suddenly.

I guess that's what drafting 4 first rounders in a calendar year plus really strong and promising seasons by Reinhart, Wotherspoon, Ortio, and Granlund will do!

Pierre "Monster" McGuire · 07-20-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by edslunch

Agreed, especially since Burke is on record saying Gillies had a disappointing season and he doesn't know if he will be an NHLer yet.

It's true. The post-WJC Gillies played disappointingly. His World Junior showing was disappointing as well. That's not to take anything away from his potential, but he took a small step back after January.

Ortio on the other hand continued to progress the entire year.

BlackWallStreet · 07-20-2014, 11:14 AM

Had to go with my boy MAX REINHART

djsFlames · 07-20-2014, 11:15 AM

Max Power isn't higher than either of out top goalie prospects. Gillies here (by a sliver over Ortio). Has all the tools to be our future starter. Only had a rough WJC, bounced back later in the season though.

For those that need it spelled out for them: potential starter > potential bottom six forward.

Read Only · 07-20-2014, 11:17 AM

Reinhart slightly over Ortio. I think Reinhart has a good chance of being a 3rd liber for the next 10 years or so for the Flames and for me that just beats out the higher ceiling of Ortio.

I think after these two it gets tough as there are no more guys I see as likely contributors to the Flames long term. There is some potential but guys would have to show a lot of improvement/continued growth.

I don't get the Seiloff playing this year comments. He had an okay half of an OHL season, missed a year completely, is a slow, mediocre skater, offers zero offense, isn't great with the puck and isn't such a great defensive guy to be used in a shut down role. I just don't see where he fits in the line up or why he jumps ahead of the 6 vets we have plus Wotherspoon, Billins, Cundari.

Maybe he gets time at the end of the year when everyone young seems to get a call up but I don't see him on the Flames in anything other than a end of the year let's have a look/reward stint for 3-5 games.

FlamesAddiction · 07-20-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

Max Power isn't higher than either of out top goalie prospects. Gillies here (by a sliver over Ortio). Has all the tools to be our future starter. Only had a rough WJC, bounced back later in the season though.

For those that need it spelled out for them: potential starter > potential bottom six forward.

I mentioned this in the round 7 thread, but if Reinhart doesn't make the team this year, then I am worried about his long term transition into an NHL player. Most regular NHL forwards make the NHL full time between the ages of 20 and 22. After that, the chances really start to fall off. Reinhart will be 23 around the midway point this next season.

I think he really needs to take the next step into the NHL this season if he is going to continue to progress, but I don't see him making the team unless there is a drastic string of injuries. Here's hoping he does though...

RyZ · 07-20-2014, 11:31 AM

Max Power. Hes ready now, but wont make the team due to how many 1 way contracts we have for bottom 6 players already. If someone in the bottom 6 gets hurt early I could see Reinhart coming up and never going back down.

Monahan23 · 07-20-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

For those voting for Gillies over Ortio, I'm a little confused by that. Ortio has done more in his career so far and has shown no indication he can't be an NHL player. Oh well, it's a good problem to have either way.

Well he should be ahead of Gillies because Ortio's 3 years older. Gillies has been the best or 2nd best goalie since his rookie year. He has more potential IMO.

ClubFlames · 07-20-2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by getbak

What are you talking about?

In two years at Providence, Jankowski has never been outscored by a defenceman. Last season, Jankowski was second in goals and third in points on the team. The only players ahead of him were their first line centre and first line winger.

Also, he put up those points despite having no real offensive support from his linemates.

+1

Plus Mauermann and Saracino are 23 and 22, respectively while Jankowski is still only 19, only 1 month older than Monahan.

Lanny_McDonald · 07-20-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by edslunch

Agreed, especially since Burke is on record saying Gillies had a disappointing season and he doesn't know if he will be an NHLer yet.

Yeah, and Burke keeps taking shots at Gaudreau every opportunity he gets too. Couldn't be he's trying to again manage expectations on a young player?

SportsJunky · 07-20-2014, 12:05 PM

Reinhart completely won me over during the season last year in Abbotsford. He gets my vote again.

Fire of the Phoenix · 07-20-2014, 12:07 PM

It's selling Reinhart short to say he's a future bottom 6 player. He has potential to be a 2nd Liner for sure. Nothing flashy and maybe not as a flame but there is a chance he can be a 40 pt 2 way top 9 forward. Probably a much greater chance that happens than any of our goalies turning into a quality starter.

transplant99 · 07-20-2014, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Read Only

I don't get the Seiloff playing this year comments. He had an okay half of an OHL season, missed a year completely, is a slow, mediocre skater, offers zero offense, isn't great with the puck and isn't such a great defensive guy to be used in a shut down role. I just don't see where he fits in the line up or why he jumps ahead of the 6 vets we have plus Wotherspoon, Billins, Cundari.
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The ONLY part of that statement that has any truth to it is that he will not be a big time offensive guy...no question about that.

Beyond that though...literally everything you said is incorrect.

BlackWallStreet · 07-20-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

Max Power isn't higher than either of out top goalie prospects. Gillies here (by a sliver over Ortio). Has all the tools to be our future starter. Only had a rough WJC, bounced back later in the season though.

For those that need it spelled out for them: potential starter > potential bottom six forward.

Thanks! Can you please spell things out for me more often? I'm lost without ya

edslunch · 07-20-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by New Era

Yeah, and Burke keeps taking shots at Gaudreau every opportunity he gets too. Couldn't be he's trying to again manage expectations on a young player?

Could be, but it didn't seem like a message moment. He was asked about college prospects making the NHL and his answer was Gaudreau yes, Arnold yes, Jankowski don't know - ask me after this year, Gillies don't know - he had a disappointing season. Seemed off the cuff but either way not that big a deal just tempers my enthusiasm a bit.

Read Only · 07-20-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

The ONLY part of that statement that has any truth to it is that he will not be a big time offensive guy...no question about that.

Beyond that though...literally everything you said is incorrect.

If you say so.

transplant99 · 07-20-2014, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Read Only

If you say so.

Yup...I do.

FlameZilla · 07-20-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

It's selling Reinhart short to say he's a future bottom 6 player. He has potential to be a 2nd Liner for sure. Nothing flashy and maybe not as a flame but there is a chance he can be a 40 pt 2 way top 9 forward. Probably a much greater chance that happens than any of our goalies turning into a quality starter.

Reinhart is a guaranteed future bottom 6 player, with a bit of offensive upside. The future should be now with Max, and that's what's important to note. He's as NHL-ready as any of our prospects, including Gaudreau, but I don't think he'll do more offensively than deputise occasionally on the top 2 lines. He has the potential to be one of the best third-liners in the league, and I hope he sticks around through the rebuild so we can take advantage of his skill set.