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View Poll Results: Should the Flames re-sign Chris Butler
Yes, good fit on that third pairing 212 55.94%
Yes, they need guys they know to get to the salary floor 25 6.60%
No, make room for youth or new blood 88 23.22%
No, I still don't like Chris Butler, I don't care how many shots he blocks 54 14.25%
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:33 PM   #61
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It depends on the prospect.

Lots of stuff rhymes with Sven....
Jankowski is really throwing a wrench into things for me right now.

What the hell rhymes with Jankowski? "Worse than Drake Berehowsky"?

That's just not going to cut it.
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:49 PM   #62
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Yes. If any young guys earn it, they will get playing time.
Plus there are always stretches with injured d-men.
Maybe a 2 year deal would be ideal. That gives guys like Wotherspoon, Kulak and Culkin time to properly develope. It's still early in the rebuild and there's no need to rush young d-men into the lineup.
If they can't outplay Butler then they shouldn't be on the NHL squad yet.
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:54 PM   #63
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Jankowski is really throwing a wrench into things for me right now.

What the hell rhymes with Jankowski? "Worse than Drake Berehowsky"?

That's just not going to cut it.
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:16 PM   #64
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I'd let Butler walk. I've gotten over my previous dislike of him, he's a serviceable NHL defender. I really want the Flames to make an effort to sign Willie Mitchell this off-season. He wants two years on his next deal, he's 37 and he's come back from major injuries time and time again. Now he's playing big minutes and contributing for LA in the finals AGAIN.

This is the sort of free agent signing our team needs. A (soon to be) two-time Stanley Cup champion, warrior, stay at home physical D with some decent puck skills, excellent leadership, and someone who overcomes the adversity in front of him like clockwork.

I'd rather have that on our blue line than Butler, but that's just me.
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:35 PM   #65
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Butler should not be re-signed. He's a good top pair defenseman but he could be replaced by younger options like Matt Bartkowski, bigger options like Adam McQuaid or Johnny Boychuk or Brooks Orpik, and RH options like Stralman, McQuiad, Boychuk, Gilbert etc.
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:40 PM   #66
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Butler should not be re-signed. He's a good top pair defenseman but he could be replaced by younger options like Matt Bartkowski, bigger options like Adam McQuaid or Johnny Boychuk or Brooks Orpik, and RH options like Stralman, McQuiad, Boychuk, Gilbert etc.
And exactly how many of those players are Flames property..... oh wait!

Butler is a "free" asset for next season, trading for someone requires giving something up
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:55 PM   #67
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Unless it's an FA like Stralman or Gilbert or Orpik. "free" assets as well. And McQuiad and Boychuk would be pretty cheap
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:11 PM   #68
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I'd Gladly replace Butler with Stralman. But I think Stralman is destined to re-sign in NY.
There are better options out there than Butler come UFA or trade routes. Let's just play the field for a bit.
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:25 PM   #69
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If the Flames can sign a young two-way defenseman who can handle the 2nd pairing minutes, I'll let Butler walk; other than that I don't mind keeping him. Butler plays better playing less minutes and not being relied on heavily. He actually improved late last season though.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:04 PM   #70
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I voted yes, but for different reasons. Injuries happen, and it is nice to have some depth there. I am not a fan of Butler at all, but he is a good depth guy at least.
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:17 AM   #71
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i voted no. He has progressed from being a POS defender to servicable 5-7 guy.

I would prefer the flames trying to go out and try some "new blood", who knows maybe the find someone that sticks. Butler isn't part of the long term plans, he isn't physical, is an avg at best defender, and zero offense player. We could use him as a stop-gap for the next year or two knowing his limitation, or we let him walk and try to find another young depth guy to give the opportunity and see if he can rise up to the occassion (like smith before he got hurt).
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:22 AM   #72
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I liked the way Matt Greene played last night too... I'd put him with Russell before Wideman.

Gio - Brodie
Russell - Greene
Smid - Wideman

You have an offensive and defensive-minded player on each pairing.

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Old 06-10-2014, 08:44 AM   #73
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Niskanen is going to be hot property on the UFA market... We have the cap space to make it happen but I think it's a long shot.

In that case I would still consider re-signing Butler as a 6/7th D so that guys like Wotherspoon, Kulak & Culkin can take their sweet time developing.

I'm expecting some sort of shake-up though... We could get that big, RH shut-down D man via trade.

If Butler gets re-signed I think it might be quite a lot later this summer. Treliving will probably wait to see if there are better options.
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I'd let Butler walk. I've gotten over my previous dislike of him, he's a serviceable NHL defender. I really want the Flames to make an effort to sign Willie Mitchell this off-season. He wants two years on his next deal, he's 37 and he's come back from major injuries time and time again. Now he's playing big minutes and contributing for LA in the finals AGAIN.

This is the sort of free agent signing our team needs. A (soon to be) two-time Stanley Cup champion, warrior, stay at home physical D with some decent puck skills, excellent leadership, and someone who overcomes the adversity in front of him like clockwork.

I'd rather have that on our blue line than Butler, but that's just me.
Yeah, Mitchell would be a great addition and the Kings might have trouble paying him what he wants. Overpay him for a 2 year deal. $5 million/yr. He should be a great mentor to the younger defensemen (Wotherspoon).
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:28 AM   #75
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Would love to see a competitive guy like Johnny Boychuk in a Flames uniform. Oilers will make a hard push for him.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:39 AM   #76
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Unless it's an FA like Stralman or Gilbert or Orpik. "free" assets as well. And McQuiad and Boychuk would be pretty cheap
On the free agent market? I doubt it. I could see someone giving McQuaid $2.5 million and Boychuk about $4 million. They won't be cheap.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:55 PM   #77
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If they decide to keep him, I have no issues. But I would be trying to find an upgrade in the top 4 before I commit to keeping Butler.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:12 PM   #78
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I thinks the Flames have given his spot to Russell .... and have Billins as backup for that spot.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:25 PM   #79
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If we can upgrade, no, if we can't, yes, pretty generic answer but that's how it is haha.
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