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Old 04-11-2014, 12:47 AM   #61
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So who takes over as the Director of Player Safety? Maybe someone like Murphy or King as interim then someone new in the off-season? Or does someone like Quintal just step in right away and do it?

Some people saying it should be a former ref, I'd like to see that, or more of a committee type setup for handing out suspensions

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Old 04-11-2014, 01:28 AM   #62
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Don Van Massenhoven retires as a ref, Director of Player Safety job opens up.

I think we have a match here.
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Old 04-11-2014, 05:52 AM   #63
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The NHL front office stuff is decent experience and I give credit to him for that. Excluding that... yes I do think playing in the NHL gives you as much as insight into running the entire organization as working in a McDonalds gives you to run the corporation.

Why do only good players get these jobs with no experience? Why does Trevor Linden have the ability to jump right into this job (I will give Shanahan a pass due to his front office experience although I'd rather have a guy who worked in a team's front office) while guys like Scott Walker have to start out in juniors. These hirings are purely PR moves.
Well being a McDonalds worker requires 0 qualifications, you need to know nothing about the job, business or anything really. At least with the NHL there is some knowledge of hockey and how it is played in order to make it to the NHL and especially to excel for 20 years. The NHL is the elite of the elite in its field whereas McDonalds is the lowest of the low so they shouldn't be comparable just based on that fact alone.

I think a lot of these guys are hired for PR reasons is because that is what a lot of their jobs entail is PR stuff. If Shannahan is picking who to draft and who to sign it is a bad hiring, but that appears to be what Nonis will do. If Shannahan is picking who is the GM to make those day to day decisions then he seems to have a fine background to pick a GM and certainly no less qualifications to do it than other Presidents/Owners that have done it in the past.

Walker has to go to juniors because he seems to be taking a more active role in the day to day operations i.e. coaching/personel and Shannahan (seems) to be a more big picture role.
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Old 04-11-2014, 05:56 AM   #64
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The best mcdonalds employee has to know something since he/she is the best fry cooker in town.
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:28 AM   #65
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=448947

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The Toronto Maple Leafs have officially named Hockey Hall of Fame member Brendan Shanahan the hockey club's president and alternate governor.
Whatever that means.

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Old 04-11-2014, 07:39 AM   #66
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Middle finger to Shanahan. Turns down the prez job with Calgary but takes it with Toronto. You could say he didn't want to report to King, but you always have a boss. Pretty sure gents at MLSE are a little more demanding/less understanding/shorter term.

He's dead to me.
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:42 AM   #67
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Middle finger to Shanahan. Turns down the prez job with Calgary but takes it with Toronto. You could say he didn't want to report to King, but you always have a boss. Pretty sure gents at MLSE are a little more demanding/less understanding/shorter term.

He's dead to me.
I wouldn't take it too personally. His family is rooted in the east and the vibe was that it wouldn't have been a great move for his family. It's possible King was an issue but I tend to think it's a matter of another hockey person/player that just wanted to stay out east to which there has been many.
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I wouldn't take it too personally. His family is rooted in the east and the vibe was that it wouldn't have been a great move for his family. It's possible King was an issue but I tend to think it's a matter of another hockey person/player that just wanted to stay out east to which there has been many.
I wasn't being too serious.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:12 AM   #69
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And the fact that MLSE can pay much higher salaries than the Flames usually give out.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:22 AM   #70
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Why would Flames fans accept this kind of nepotism? Why would we want the guy who has blown every managing opportunity he's ever had in the NHL?
That type of nepotism is way better than the one that Sutter had.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:53 AM   #71
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Apparently, he wants to hire Peter Deboer as coach. Deboer's "Advanced Stats" coaching style will make stats geeks happy.
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:15 PM   #72
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Does it not seem like there should be a rule in place that you can't offer/discuss a job with the guy in charge of suspensions during the season?
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Old 04-12-2014, 05:05 PM   #73
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Middle finger to Shanahan. Turns down the prez job with Calgary but takes it with Toronto. You could say he didn't want to report to King, but you always have a boss. Pretty sure gents at MLSE are a little more demanding/less understanding/shorter term.

He's dead to me.
Different positions. In Calgary he was offered President of Hockey Operations (What Burkey does here) in Toronto he's the President (What Ken King does here)
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Old 04-12-2014, 05:12 PM   #74
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Middle finger to Shanahan. Turns down the prez job with Calgary but takes it with Toronto. You could say he didn't want to report to King, but you always have a boss. Pretty sure gents at MLSE are a little more demanding/less understanding/shorter term.

He's dead to me.
So glad he turned the job down here. Fail to see how he's qualified, we are much better off.
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Old 04-12-2014, 08:30 PM   #75
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Does it not seem like there should be a rule in place that you can't offer/discuss a job with the guy in charge of suspensions during the season?
He gave the Leafs more suspensions than any team.
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Old 04-12-2014, 09:04 PM   #76
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Different positions. In Calgary he was offered President of Hockey Operations (What Burkey does here) in Toronto he's the President (What Ken King does here)
In Toronto his job will be King and Burkes together.
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Old 04-12-2014, 09:05 PM   #77
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And the fact that MLSE can pay much higher salaries than the Flames usually give out.
It isn't the 90's anymore.

The Flames owners are kinda filthy rich.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:03 AM   #78
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press conference being streamed here:
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=603871
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