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Old 04-07-2014, 05:48 PM   #61
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Definitely a kick. That signal the ref did for a kicked puck was hilarious. I don't think grabbing the net and repeatedly lifting your leg in a kicking motion is an official referee signal.
Haha you would be correct!

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Well, you're allowed to use your skate to kick the puck everywhere else on the ice and in any direction; why the discrimination here?

I don't agree with the soccer excuse if you're allowed to move the puck with your feet anywhere else on the ice.

Nevertheless, I digress. Back to the game.
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does that matter if the effort was first to kick it into the net? Can you kick it on goal as long as you don't score?
You can kick it towards the net as long as you hit the puck with your stick before it goes in the net. Kicking the puck straight to the net is a no-no though.
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The Devil player kicked it but it wasn't going in until Ramo kicked it in his own net. I would have called it a goal... But I also think kicking the puck should be fine
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The Devil player kicked it but it wasn't going in until Ramo kicked it in his own net. I would have called it a goal... But I also think kicking the puck should be fine
Soccer fan???
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Old 04-07-2014, 05:52 PM   #66
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what a loophole that is.
That's a good point.

You can't kick the puck into the net for safety reasons but you can kick it anywhere else, including to your stick when in the crease...

I just worry if they change the rules, someone will kick the puck towards the goal as a defender dives across to block a potential shot.

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Well if safety is a reason, allow kicking as long as the skate remains on the ice. It doesn't take ANYTHING away from the game what so ever, thinking otherwise is just bias to your opinion. Secondly, it happens very rarely. Imagine seeing a bad pass and the guy's stick is held or lifted and he slides his foot back and kicks in a goal while falling to the ice. In reality it isn't going to make even a small deal but does add a TINY bit of extra dynamics. It's very rare you get the opportunity, and when you do, why punish it.
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As a former crappy goaltender I'm always shocked at people who want to allow kicking in and around the crease. It's just crazy. I wouldn't want to be down on the ice, trying to cover up a loose puck with 2-3 opposing forward swinging a skate instead of their stick. It's dangerous.

It's hockey. Yes we allow moving the puck with the skate in other areas but those are mostly tie ups along the boards and it's just trying to battle the puck loose, against other skate boots. It's hockey, use your stick, that's what it's for. The obsession with wanting to see more goals goals goals is infuriating, why not swatting it with your hand? That's not flipping hockey either.

But I digress, back to the game.
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Well if safety is a reason, allow kicking as long as the skate remains on the ice. It doesn't take ANYTHING away from the game what so ever, thinking otherwise is just bias to your opinion. Secondly, it happens very rarely. Imagine seeing a bad pass and the guy's stick is held or lifted and he slides his foot back and kicks in a goal while falling to the ice. In reality it isn't going to make even a small deal but does add a TINY bit of extra dynamics. It's very rare you get the opportunity, and when you do, why punish it.
Bias is not wanting a foot with blades swinging where my hands and next are when I'm trying to cover a puck?
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That's a good point, you can't kick the puck into the net for safety reasons, but you can kick it anywhere else, including to your stick when in the crease...

I just worry if they change the rules, someone will kick the puck towards the goal as a defender dives across to block a potential shot.
If a puck is loose in the crease now, players are trying to put their stick on the puck. How many times do you see a player trying to kick the puck to his stick, then into the net, in the crease?

Yeah, it's a grey area but draw the line at a goal. If you allow it kicking a puck into the net players will stop focusing on getting their stick on it and start kicking their skates around.

I know I'm a broken record.. but that just isn't the game of hockey. I'm not even trying to be condescending saying "that's soccer". That's just, what it would be.

There aren't soccer forums filled with fans who type "Why isn't that allowed again?" if a player picks up the balls and throws it into the net, are there?
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:02 PM   #72
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As a former crappy goaltender I'm always shocked at people who want to allow kicking in and around the crease. It's just crazy. I wouldn't want to be down on the ice, trying to cover up a loose puck with 2-3 opposing forward swinging a skate instead of their stick. It's dangerous.

It's hockey. Yes we allow moving the puck with the skate in other areas but those are mostly tie ups along the boards and it's just trying to battle the puck loose, against other skate boots. It's hockey, use your stick, that's what it's for. The obsession with wanting to see more goals goals goals is infuriating, why not swatting it with your hand? That's not flipping hockey either.

But I digress, back to the game.
Never going to happen. It is extremely difficult and unnatural to try and kick the puck. No one is going to stand in the crease and start hoofing the goalie
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:03 PM   #73
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As a former crappy goaltender I'm always shocked at people who want to allow kicking in and around the crease. It's just crazy. I wouldn't want to be down on the ice, trying to cover up a loose puck with 2-3 opposing forward swinging a skate instead of their stick. It's dangerous.

It's hockey. Yes we allow moving the puck with the skate in other areas but those are mostly tie ups along the boards and it's just trying to battle the puck loose, against other skate boots. It's hockey, use your stick, that's what it's for. The obsession with wanting to see more goals goals goals is infuriating, why not swatting it with your hand? That's not flipping hockey either.

But I digress, back to the game.
But who's face is down on the ice 99% of the time, aside from the goalie who's wearing a full face mask? Usually players aren't down face first at ice level. I just think if your foot is legal property during hockey, not sure why you can't use your foot when it matters most. In soccer, they can use their knees and heads in the zone in a scrum, and I've seen some brutal injuries in my day playing soccer in competitive leagues, but it's not banned.

But I digress, back to the game.
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Those NJ shootout stats were pathetic and laughable. 0 wins in 11 tries. Only 2 guys have scored all season in the SO!! Monahan has twice as many goals as them in that department. Lol. Jersey would be in a playoff spot if they were even half decent at it.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:05 PM   #75
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Never going to happen. It is extremely difficult and unnatural to try and kick the puck. No one is going to stand in the crease and start hoofing the goalie
Totally disagree. You allow kicked in pucks and it'll happen.

I'm not suggesting they'll start hoofing the goaltender either, I'm saying I wouldn't want to be the goalie down on the ice when guys are allowed to swing their skate blades around. It's pointless.

It's not hockey.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:05 PM   #76
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BVB out there on the draw lined up against Jagr... that had to be a holy 'frig' moment.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:06 PM   #77
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Butler with the play of the game so far. Impressive.
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Butler!! Wow!!
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But who's face is down on the ice 99% of the time, aside from the goalie who's wearing a full face mask? Usually players aren't down face first at ice level. I just think if your foot is legal property during hockey, not sure why you can't use your foot when it matters most. In soccer, they can use their knees and heads in the zone in a scrum, and I've seen some brutal injuries in my day playing soccer in competitive leagues, but it's not banned..
Fairly certain a goalies neck is still potentially exposed at times.

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