04-03-2014, 02:44 PM
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First Line Centre
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I don't understand why we tip based on the value of the food. Does it take more work to bring out a $50 steak versus a $10 Pho? I actually think bringing out a boiling hot bowl of Pho takes more balance, finesse and skill not to spill it.
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04-03-2014, 02:50 PM
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#62
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Originally Posted by darklord700
I don't understand why we tip based on the value of the food. Does it take more work to bring out a $50 steak versus a $10 Pho? I actually think bringing out a boiling hot bowl of Pho takes more balance, finesse and skill not to spill it.
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Timing of when to take out the steak, the rest of the meal, and still having that correct doneness (Not waiting too long to be taken to the table), is a lot more difficult. More to it than just grabbing food and walking with it.
Last edited by btimbit; 04-03-2014 at 04:50 PM.
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04-03-2014, 02:57 PM
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#63
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RealtorŪ
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by darklord700
I don't understand why we tip based on the value of the food. Does it take more work to bring out a $50 steak versus a $10 Pho? I actually think bringing out a boiling hot bowl of Pho takes more balance, finesse and skill not to spill it.
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I also expect my pho to come out splashing over the edges by someone in jeans with a couple stains on their shirt.
I expect my steak to come out with someone who is putting as much care into their personal professional image as the chef did into the preparation of the meal.
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04-03-2014, 03:07 PM
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#64
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Not gonna lie, I don't usually tip more than 15%. 20% is ridiculous, and social pressure or not, I'm not going to start tipping that much.
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Maybe that's why Vancouver and Calgary are at the bottom, high asian populations.
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04-03-2014, 03:38 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
edit- a somewhat relevant story- I was at a restaurant in Canmore with the in-laws after a drive from Kelowna. Mother in law insisted on picking up the bill (as a sort of repayment for picking up the gas bill to kelowna), but left a horrendous tip for what was just fine service. She didn't have a problem with the service or food, she is just a lousy tipper. Left about 5%. So, I waited for them to leave first and then topped up the tip to 15%. Maybe this was wrong of me?
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Huh, how would you feel if you left 20% and someone else decided that wasn't enough and waited until you left so they could top it up with another 10-20%? I can't be bothered feeling guilt over tipping at the best of times, and certainly not if someone else bought dinner and then tipped how they see fit.
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04-03-2014, 03:59 PM
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#66
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Backup Goalie
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Originally Posted by Reaper
The people who receive tips will always lean towards a higher tipping percentage regardless if they deserve it or not. Personally, I tip based on service. If you provide good service you get 15%. If you provide substandard service you get less and it is heavily dependent on attitude. If you provide poor service and you're a C U Next Tuesday then I will tip an insulting amount. If you provide above average service then I will tip 20%.
There is not the wage disparity between servers and minimum wage that exists in the United States. In some states servers' minimum wage is 1/3 of regular minimum wage. Maybe it should be that way here. Whenever I've traveled in the United States I always receive better service than anything I could receive in Calgary.
Also, I do not tip on takeout or at coffee shops. When I'm doing my job correctly no one stops by my desk to drop off some change. Why should I give you extra money because you did your job?
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Assuming you're talking about placing an order for pickup? If you don't tip on takeout orders, ask for a leader to take your order as they do not have to tip out at the end of the night. As a server, there is nothing worse than punching in a $100 to-go order then having to tip out on that at the end of the night. It sucks, because we lose money by doing this. Total gear grinder. I personally don't expect much tip on to-go's because it's not much of a hassle to take them (if we're not swamped) and it's not like we're waiting on your for an hour - most often or not I just transfer the orders to a leader.
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04-03-2014, 04:07 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
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If I'm picking up my own food that 'tip-function' is just laughed at. I'm sure it was a bitch to bring the bag to the front and punch the numbers into the debit machine, but you're just going to have to suck it up.
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04-03-2014, 04:12 PM
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#68
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Originally Posted by NomNomNom
Assuming you're talking about placing an order for pickup? If you don't tip on takeout orders, ask for a leader to take your order as they do not have to tip out at the end of the night. As a server, there is nothing worse than punching in a $100 to-go order then having to tip out on that at the end of the night. It sucks, because we lose money by doing this. Total gear grinder. I personally don't expect much tip on to-go's because it's not much of a hassle to take them (if we're not swamped) and it's not like we're waiting on your for an hour - most often or not I just transfer the orders to a leader.
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No, I'm not talking about a $100 takeout order from a sit-down restaurant. I'm talking about picking up a pizza or a couple of meals from a Vietnamese takeout only restaurant. If it was a $100 order I would probably tip as per standard custom because I appreciate the service.
I always tip on delivery because I appreciate the fact that the driver brought my food to my house.
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04-03-2014, 04:18 PM
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#69
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by btimbit
GGG, I know the restaurant you're talking about and it's worth mentioning it closed not long after that article was published.
I agree with the theory entirely, and I absolutely detest tipping, but it's here to stay unless there's some sort of massive social change that makes it unacceptable. One restaurant can't simply raise prices and remove tipping. As soon as prices go up, business goes down.
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Yeah I agree we are stuck in a tipping environment so I choose to remove myself from the equation. I cant not tip because that is how the wage structure is designed. So I tip a flat rate regardless of service.
The thing people need to realize is that the size of a tip is not correlated well with the quality of service. Therefore tipping provides no incentive to improve service.
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04-03-2014, 05:52 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Another tipping absurdity is tutti frutti downtown....I fill my bowl with ice cream, I put toppings on my ice cream, I put my ice cream on the scale, and the cashier punches in the number to the till....And there is a tip jar and tip option on the machine.....
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04-03-2014, 06:01 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Some how I feel like 15 years ago, tipping was just rounding the bill up so it was an easy number
then 10 years ago it became 10% is OK, less isn't good, more is good. 15 % is great.
then 5 years ago they started telling us 15% is OK, less isn't good, more is good, 20% is great.
Now there trying to tell us its 20%.
When does it end?'
Call me a cheap a$$ but 13 some odd percent seems pretty right to me, I pretty much aim for higher than 15% for good service, ~10% for bad service. And I avoid tipping places like coffee shops that have not traditionally been a tip receiving industry.
Last edited by #-3; 04-03-2014 at 06:25 PM.
Reason: just bad grammer
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04-03-2014, 06:14 PM
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#72
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Good enough spot to ask this question, how much do you guys tip / do you tip when you get delivery that already has a delivery charge? For example Pizza usually has a $3 dollar delivery charge added on, are you supposed to still tip 15%, or is the delivery charge like an automatic gratuity charge? I usually end up tipping another 15% on top of the price of the pizza, but just wondering if I've been constantly overpaying for delivery or not.
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04-03-2014, 06:29 PM
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#73
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Woohoo another tipping discussion!
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04-03-2014, 06:46 PM
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#74
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Thanks Bruce...
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04-03-2014, 07:50 PM
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#75
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by J epworth kendal
Good enough spot to ask this question, how much do you guys tip / do you tip when you get delivery that already has a delivery charge? For example Pizza usually has a $3 dollar delivery charge added on, are you supposed to still tip 15%, or is the delivery charge like an automatic gratuity charge? I usually end up tipping another 15% on top of the price of the pizza, but just wondering if I've been constantly overpaying for delivery or not.
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I'd say 15% on pizza delivery is on the high side. I typically toss em $2-$3 change or $5 if it's really crappy weather. But I typically try to avoid tipping on the machine, I prefer putting cash in their hand. So I'll pay with debit/credit, but tip in cash.
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04-03-2014, 07:53 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by jaydorn
I'd say 15% on pizza delivery is on the high side. I typically toss em $2-$3 change or $5 if it's really crappy weather. But I typically try to avoid tipping on the machine, I prefer putting cash in their hand. So I'll pay with debit/credit, but tip in cash.
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Ya I do 2-3 bucks as well, on a large pizza that comes out to around 15%, so good!
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04-03-2014, 07:59 PM
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#77
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by sun
Woohoo another tipping discussion!
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My favorite part is all the cheap people justifying why they don't tip to the standard. Hey, if you're cheap, just say, "I'm cheap!" I can respect that. Just stop justifying yourself in every tipping thread (that happen once every month or so, it seems) with specious reasoning and excuses.
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04-03-2014, 10:39 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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I probably tip too much. I used to tip 15% for standard service, 18% for good service and 20% for awesome service. Now it seems to be 20% is just automatic for me.
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Typical dumb take.
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04-03-2014, 10:44 PM
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#79
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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I didn't read the thread, so it's probably been mentioned, but who the F uses an app to tip? Hipsters? That's right... hipsters... or as I like to call them, hairy jobless sockheads.
They could have used a better method for gathering their data.
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04-03-2014, 11:11 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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I've talked to servers who said in the past Rev Can has gone after them based on average credit card tips. To me that's not really fair since they don't know if people tip the same by Credit card, debit or cash. I always tip in cash, I have never used the tip function on the keypad.
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