Nino Niederreiter questionable hit on Burrows

[OldSam]

Originally Posted by nik-

He returned before I even posted the thread.

If this is true, then ask yourself if the head snap was just a typical Canucks reaction to body contact.

Burrows has always been the boy who cried wolf, so I can't decide with a two second gif whether it was a dirty hit or not. The refs decided for a 2 minute penalty. Nino isn't a dirty player, so maybe 2 minutes is all that is required.

[foshizzle11]

That was a dirty hit, suspension probably coming.

[PeteLFan]

Nice clean hockey check which contacted his head. When a player embellishes as much as Alex it's hard to tell if he's selling the hit or not. He has no one to blame but himself cheapskate.

[Enoch Root]

Wasn't late. Came at him from the front. Wasn't charging. Hit him with his shoulder and hit the chest first.

Nothing wrong with this hit.

Oh, and no injury (not that I think that should matter)

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

You're both right. The neck and chest both were hit at the same time, so both the head and the chest were the principle point of contact. The question is, does that equal a head shot in today's game?

By the rules, no. The NHL has defined "principle point of contact" as being where the focus of impact is to one part of the body. When the guy's entire frame gets hit at the same time, even if the head is included, that is not a headshot.

By the rules, that was a clean hit, and Burrows should know better than to skate into the trolley tracks with his head down.

[Hockeyguy15]

I wouldn't say his head was down, he was watching his dump in. If you take a look at the first post his head starts down at his feet and follows the puck.

[Flash Walken]

The Smid hit from last night is worse than this.

[bubbsy]

most of the time i'd be upset by this kind of hit, but since it is burrows who's head/kneck is snapping back so abruptly, it is very difficult to ascertain whether this is real or embellishing the impact more than necessary.

this should teach burrows to never cry wolf.

[btimbit]

Won't have a hearing

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/r...aring-for-hit/

[Erick Estrada]

Stajan has been concussed by dirtier hits that were not deemed suspendable. It's one of those 50/50 hits where it's a high hit but the intent to injure doesn't look to be there and it's more of a guy finishing his hit to a player with his head down. Combine that with the fact the victim is Burrows and this incident registers very low on my "Give a Crap" meter.

[Rubicant]

Didn't look predatory to me, more like a hit that wound up connecting with the head a little bit after contact with the chest.

Not the type of hit to get out of the game IMO.

[19Yzerman19]

It's actually hilarious how completely bias can change peoples' whole perception of reality. This is obviously a headshot. He nails the guy in the chin. The fact that he gets him in the chest as well at roughly the same time changes nothing, this is the kind of hit that leads to concussions.

It's Burrows, everyone hates him, and he returned to the play, so there won't be any supplemental discipline. I'm reading that his comment was that he needed to be more aware of his surroundings which also helped the NHL out. But if it was Teemu Selanne or some other beloved player on the other end and he stayed out for precautionary reasons people would be calling for Nino's head on a stake.

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

It's actually hilarious how completely bias can change peoples' whole perception of reality. This is obviously a headshot. He nails the guy in the chin. The fact that he gets him in the chest as well at roughly the same time changes nothing, this is the kind of hit that leads to concussions.

It's Burrows, everyone hates him, and he returned to the play, so there won't be any supplemental discipline. I'm reading that his comment was that he needed to be more aware of his surroundings which also helped the NHL out. But if it was Teemu Selanne or some other beloved player on the other end and he stayed out for precautionary reasons people would be calling for Nino's head on a stake.

There's no debate that his head wound up getting hit, but that doesn't make it a dirty play at all.

Didn't leave his feet, didn't target the head, stuff happens when big people collide at high speed.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The Smid hit from last night is worse than this.

Yeah and the Smid his wasn't even that bad. When did we stop expecting players to keep their heads up and protect themselves? When your heading behind the net with a defensemen you know a hit is coming, why the F would you turn your head down and embelish for a penalty, that's Canucks level $@it

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

It's actually hilarious how completely bias can change peoples' whole perception of reality. This is obviously a headshot. He nails the guy in the chin. The fact that he gets him in the chest as well at roughly the same time changes nothing, this is the kind of hit that leads to concussions.

If you think that, you don't understand NHL rules.

[19Yzerman19]

Principal point of contact was the head. I understand them pretty well, man. Of course, that's not really the point, because the DOPS doesn't care about the rules in handing out suspensions as much as they care about public perception, which is why injury plays such a huge role in these things.

For the record and according to my own personal standards as to what should be suspendable, I don't think that there should be a suspension because Burrows put himself in a vulnerable position by lunging for a puck and Niederreiter was not intentionally picking his head. I just think the whole "I see nothing wrong with this! Clean chest hit! Shoulder got him right in the sternum! He came back so he probably just embellished the head contact!" stuff is hilarious.

[Resolute 14]

Yup, you don't understand the rules.

[nik-]

I think the breakdown happens because you think the principal point of contact was the head, when it wasn't.

[Erick Estrada]

It's really more of an unfortunate hit than a dirty hit.

[ripTDR]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Yup, you don't understand the rules.

You don't understand his post