Wild Tried to Trade Heatley to Calgary at deadline?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

I thought Heatley had a NMC clause or something, that he didnt want to come back and face the pressure of playing in his hometown, thought I read that a few years ago when Edm tried to sign him?

His hometown is Calgary.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I remember reading CP on deadline day and someone mentioned rumours of Heatley becoming a Flame as part of a 3 way trade (Anaheim, Minnesota, Calgary).

Fell apart when Vanek went to Ottawa.

That doesn't make sense based on what Burke said. He said that the Flames had a deal in place that would have seen them take on a bad contract as part of a three-way deal, but it fell apart because the team that was going to send the contract to the Flames didn't get their other deal done.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by devo22

not sure why Minnesota would get a 3rd in that scenario. IMO Calgary would have received Heatley, MINs 2nd for taking on Heatley's salary and ANAs 3rd and ANAs 5th for Cammalleri (probably a fair price considering the prices that were paid on deadline day). Minnesota gets future considerations or a useless contract like James Martin or something like that.

It's all speculation, so not much to discuss. Heatley had value, no matter what you think though.

Heatley - 64gp, 25 points
Cammalleri - 48gp, 25 points
Hemsky - 58gp, 32 points


The difference in value between the 3 isn't that great, especially all being UFA's in a couple months.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by getbak

That doesn't make sense based on what Burke said. He said that the Flames had a deal in place that would have seen them take on a bad contract as part of a three-way deal, but it fell apart because the team that was going to send the contract to the Flames didn't get their other deal done.

Yes, because Minnesota lost out on Vanek. If Minnesota would have got Vanek, they needed to get rid of Heatley.

Anaheim wasn't offering enough for Cammalleri straight across.

All speculation, but it makes sense.

[stemit14]

I could see it being a trade for vanek from the islanders while shipping heatley to Calgary but the flames would probably want something like a 2nd pick to take on the contract. I could see the islanders probably wanting that 2nd round pick for themselves for giving up vanek the deal couldn't get done.

[Dienasty]

Originally Posted by codynw

Do "reclamation projects" ever work out for veteran players? I know it happens with prospects sometimes, but I can't think of any examples of it happening with a player in their 30s.

Jarome Iginla in Boston. He doesn't float there like he did in Calgary which made him look slow in Pitt when he was counted on to skate again.

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

His hometown is Calgary.

I know it is.

I just heard it come out when Edm tried to trade for him

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I could see it being a trade for vanek from the islanders while shipping heatley to Calgary but the flames would probably want something like a 2nd pick to take on the contract. I could see the islanders probably wanting that 2nd round pick for themselves for giving up vanek the deal couldn't get done.

The deal wasn't for Vanek. In the chat Russo is referencing a Stafford deal so the deal would have been Heatley to Cgy with pick, Stafford to Minny and a prospect or pick to Buffalo.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

I know it is.

I just heard it come out when Edm tried to sign him as a free agent.

He wasn't a free agent at the time

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Dienasty

Jarome Iginla in Boston. He doesn't float there like he did in Calgary which made him look slow in Pitt when he was counted on to skate again.

Jarome Iginla was not reclamation project

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

He wasn't a free agent at the time

erg corrected, jeezus

[Stay Golden]

I would not want Heatley on the Flames. He has lost more than just a step his desire to work hard shift to shift is not there anymore.

[dino7c]

too bad it didn't work out....he's a ####ing all star

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

I thought Heatley had a NMC clause or something, that he didnt want to come back and face the pressure of playing in his hometown, thought I read that a few years ago when Edm tried to trade for him?

As his contract aged, I think the no trade clause eased up. It happens where the first 2-3 years are full no trade and than it moves to a limited clause. When he asked Ottawa to trade him I believe it was a full no trade where he could veto any deal. But when San Jose traded him, I think it was a limited No trade at that time where he had to provide a list of 10 teams, who he couldn't be traded to. You can bet Winnipeg, Ottawa, and Edmonton are on that list.

[cam_wmh]

not Dany Heatley ‏@DanyAllStar15 Apr 30 yeah, packing a fat bomb yup its chew thirty in the press box #### a spitter I'm spittin all over the floor I'm an allstar who gives a ####

[nmhen]

I have already advocated against Heatley on this board, and I'm not changing that stance now. But, his lack of production does not appear to be from lack of effort or heart. That's what it looks like on tv, and that's how it's being reported as well.

It has been reported that he finished rehabbing the shoulder that ended his season early last year (thanks, Vlasic) and then kept on working out hard all summer. Reported to camp in great shape...and just didn't have it anymore.

It is reported that he is loved in the room, and he has certainly taken his demotions to the 4th line with professionalism and maturity. Granted, that's easy to do when you make north of $7M per, but on a team with as many impressionable kids as the Wild has, I would be extremely uncomfortable if it was being reported that he was moping around and whining about his situation.

I'm STILL NOT saying you should want him on your team next season, unless you have an opening on your TV or radio broadcast teams I suppose. But it's not because he's the locker room cancer that he's been portrayed as.

[$ven27]

If we could've gotten a 2nd or prospect, sure, why not. No harm in it

[Sylvanfan]

The way I see it, rather than spend 2 million dollars to bring in a single second round draft pick by assuming a lousy contract....take that money and put it into the entire scouting budget for next year and get better results from the picks you do have. I understand that it's s lottery and that you you need tickets to play. But you have to think you really should use players as currency to get the picks, and use the money to get people who will find you better players.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

The way I see it, rather than spend 2 million dollars to bring in a single second round draft pick by assuming a lousy contract....take that money and put it into the entire scouting budget for next year and get better results from the picks you do have. I understand that it's s lottery and that you you need tickets to play. But you have to think you really should use players as currency to get the picks, and use the money to get people who will find you better players.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Getting a 2nd rounder for 2 million is using cap space to our advantage. Scouting budget does not eat into cap space so the two have no relationship.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Getting a 2nd rounder for 2 million is using cap space to our advantage. Scouting budget does not eat into cap space so the two have no relationship.

He's talking about the opportunity cost. He'd rather have two million going to scouting then spending it on a bad contract for a 2nd. If they money is put into scouting then I agree with him.

Edited. they aren't mutually exclusive but its about the opportunity cost.