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Old 03-05-2014, 11:30 AM   #61
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I would take the same return Gaborik got and run.
Id rather get another pick then a player like Frattin.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:31 AM   #62
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So in a little under a year the Blue Jackets turned Brassard, Dorsett and Moore into Frattin, a second round pick and a couple scrubs.

That is an impressively bad return on an investment.
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#CBJ get 2nd rd pick, which was originally Toronto's pick. Also get a 3rd-rd pick if Kings win first-round playoff series or resign Gaborik.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:35 AM   #64
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So in a little under a year the Blue Jackets turned Brassard, Dorsett and Moore into Frattin, a second round pick and a couple scrubs.

That is an impressively bad return on an investment.
Yep. That and they removed a scorer from their lineup for the stretch drive without replacing him. If they miss the playoffs by a few points that may be hard to take if I'm a Jackets fan.
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I love it. Frattin was absolutely useless and was a scratch for the majority of the season.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:37 AM   #66
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Gaborik is an injury waiting to happen and with the way the Kings play my bet is he will be injured for most of his LA stay anyhow. Bad pickup for the Kings imo.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:37 AM   #67
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Columbus never should have traded for him in the first place.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:37 AM   #68
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Was the 50% salary retained made official?
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:40 AM   #69
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Kings have essentially traded Bernier for Gaborik.

The 2nd is Toronto's + Frattin came in that trade for Bernier

The 3rd is Edmonton's from the Scriven's trade
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Kings have essentially traded Bernier for Gaborik.

The 2nd is Toronto's + Frattin came in that trade for Bernier

The 3rd is Edmonton's from the Scriven's trade
Yeah, that is terrible asset management
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:42 AM   #71
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I'm sure it can be fixed by sending a player to the minors (Vey, Pearson or Toffoli), but the Kings are currently 750k over the cap.
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Gaborik is an injury waiting to happen and with the way the Kings play my bet is he will be injured for most of his LA stay anyhow. Bad pickup for the Kings imo.
Disagreed. I think the Kings are a big enough team that they are going to be able to shelter Gaborik and help keep him healthy. Its not like he is going to be relied upon to carry the team. The Kings could probably restrict his ice time to the power play and offensive zone faceoffs and allow him to be a purely offensive threat.
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He's basically being run out of Columbus because of his lackadaisical play without the puck. Hard to see how the Kings under Sutter will be a good fit.

A perfect fit. Sutter the coach spent the first 20 games worth of practices in LA working with Penner who went on to contribute to a SC win.

For a short time Sutter can get these sort of players to be productive. If that just happens to be in the playoffs it works out fine.
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Yeah, that is terrible asset management
Bernier for Gaborik at 50% salary sounds pretty good.
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Bernier for Gaborik at 50% salary sounds pretty good.
not to me - made of glass and I doubt he is a King next year
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:37 PM   #76
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not to me - made of glass and I doubt he is a King next year
Sure, the guy gets hurt more often than others. Everyone knows that. But when he is healthy, he is can be one of the best offensive threats in the league, and everyone knows that too.

The Kings turned their backup goalie (which they have more of) into a highly skilled scoring winger at only 50% salary. On most days I would consider that a very good deal. For the Kings specifically, they are a big team that is very good at controlling the puck and keeping it out of their own net. They can shelter Gaborik behind bigger, tougher guys to minimize the risk of injury and allow him to focus on the one area they sometimes need help in - scoring goals*.

*At least that is the one area I thought they were lacking in when it came to last year's playoffs. They were able to keep games really tight but they didn't have enough scoring touch to take advantage of their tight defense and superb goaltending.
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Columbus, NY and Minny have all dumped him in the last few years - and it isn't because he is one of the best offensive threats in the league

But it is fine that we disagree
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Goborik's return appears to be minimal. LA got the best of this deal but Gaborik needs to refind his game or he becomes pretty 1 dimensional as a player. I could see him getting in Sutters doghouse.
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Lombardi confirms Columbus kept 50% of Gaborik's pro-rated salar
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