11-26-2013, 11:03 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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For those saying flip him at the deadline, there is a good chance you won't get anything for him... the CBA says that if you trade a player in the same season that you claimed him off waivers, you have to offer him for free to the other teams that put in a claim.
So for example if the Flames were to claim him but then tried to trade him to another team at the deadline, they would first have to offer him to all the other teams that put a claim on him.
Granted there will be a lot of teams that may not be able to put a claim in because of cap situations.
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11-26-2013, 11:03 AM
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#62
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#1 Goaltender
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A lot of internet fans don't understand how reluctant NHL GM's are to pick up salary. Not that surprised that PHX couldn't get assets back for Klesla when he is playing poorly and making 3 mil.
D'Agostini at league minimum is more surprising, Pit must not want to take back a contract to move him. He is also just recovering from an injury
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11-26-2013, 11:06 AM
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#63
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Klesla is worth a gamble. Last season of his contract at just under. 3 million. No brainer.
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11-26-2013, 11:06 AM
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#64
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Lifetime Suspension
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No way he gets past Edmonton.
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11-26-2013, 11:14 AM
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#65
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by $ven27
No way he gets past Edmonton.
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Edmonton would have to quickly move salary then to get them. They don't have the space with their bonuses and they're at I think 49 contracts so if they got him it would limit what they could do trade wise.
Shows how badly Edmonton is put together.
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11-26-2013, 11:14 AM
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#66
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by $ven27
No way he gets past Edmonton.
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Won't pay for Smid will pay for near priced Klesla? Does not compute (of course it is Edmonton so maybe something not making sense means they're more likely to do it).
It's pretty simple choice for Calgary I think...
A: Lot's of Cap space
B: Defense that could use improvement
C: Available player that's better then at least one of the guys on Roster
D: Zero longterm committment involved
I think it's a no-brainer.
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11-26-2013, 11:17 AM
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#67
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Sounds like a strong possibility the Islanders might claim him. They need to upgrade their defence and kind of went all in with the Vanek trade.
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11-26-2013, 11:17 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I don't think we claim him unless we work out a trade with either Phoenix or a 3rd team to take one of our defensemen. We already have a glut.
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11-26-2013, 11:23 AM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I don't think we claim him unless we work out a trade with either Phoenix or a 3rd team to take one of our defensemen. We already have a glut.
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Smith has already passed through waivers once and he rarely plays. There's more ways then just trades to clear a roster spot.
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11-26-2013, 11:32 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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No reason for the Flames to claim him, imo.
We are not making the playoffs and he is an upcoming UFA. Also as SureLoss said above you likely wouldn't get anything for him at the trade deadline.
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11-26-2013, 11:42 AM
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Why does everyone assume that a player having a poor season will magically pull a 180 on a different team? That was the thinking when the Flames got Blake Comeau and he ended up being the same player for the Flames that Islanders put on waivers.
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11-26-2013, 11:48 AM
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#72
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by DOOM
No reason for the Flames to claim him, imo.
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Sure there is... he makes the defense better, even if he can't realistically be traded himself he makes someone else immediately expendable, if we decide we want to keep him beyond this year it get's us exclusive negotiating rights.
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11-26-2013, 11:49 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Seems low risk/low reward. I am of the view if it makes our team better, go for it. We don't need to try and suck.
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11-26-2013, 11:50 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Edmonton is stuck at 49 contracts and $0. They're up tight against the cap.
I think Klesla is a good player on a decent contract that could be acquired for no assets and would be a good mentor and a steadying influence on the back-end.
I almost never indulge in the 'hes being waived the Flames should take him' type of hype, but I've always been a fan of Klesla. Quite frankly I'm shocked that hes on waivers, I thought he was Phoenix's 3/4, second pairing guy.
And whoever said Smid/Klesla would be a good shutdown pairing, I agree.
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11-26-2013, 11:56 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Klesla would help the Flames immensely. An obvious, established upgrade over SOB, Breen and Butler. Having him and Smid on the bottom pairing would at least be a stop gap until they get a better read on the development of their prospects.
That being said. I want that #6 spot for up and comers to show what they have at the NHL level. The risk with that is, is how Hartley chooses to utilize the bottom pairing, and if anything this season has shown is he is relying heavily on the top four to carry the load. Adding Klesla balances the rotation of the six further.
As for D'Agostini, what happened to him? I know his injury history but if he's not doing well in PITT, is he washed up now?
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11-26-2013, 11:56 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Not sure if Klesla is worth claiming. He could become a decent guy for us for the rest of the season but why not give a taste of the NHL to the rest of the defensive prospects we have? In terms of extra defensive bodies, there's Smith and Breen who could sit on the bottom pairing even if we move Butler.
Sure the move is low risk, but I don't see much of a tangible reward.
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11-26-2013, 11:59 AM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Why does everyone assume that a player having a poor season will magically pull a 180 on a different team? That was the thinking when the Flames got Blake Comeau and he ended up being the same player for the Flames that Islanders put on waivers.
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thank christ he insisted on a 1-year...
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11-26-2013, 12:07 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
For those saying flip him at the deadline, there is a good chance you won't get anything for him... the CBA says that if you trade a player in the same season that you claimed him off waivers, you have to offer him for free to the other teams that put in a claim.
So for example if the Flames were to claim him but then tried to trade him to another team at the deadline, they would first have to offer him to all the other teams that put a claim on him.
Granted there will be a lot of teams that may not be able to put a claim in because of cap situations.
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Interesting. Is there an example of this that has happened recently? And how exactly would the team looking to trade Klesla at the deadline offer him for free to the other teams? Would they offer it to the teams in the same waiver-wire order as when he got picked up? Other then waivers, can a player really be given away ''for free'' to another team?
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11-26-2013, 12:12 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Other then waivers, can a player really be given away ''for free'' to another team?
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11-26-2013, 12:14 PM
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#80
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by browna
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Is that Eddy Beers?
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