[News] Semyon Varlamov Arrested on Domestic Violence Charge - Page 4 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Itse · 10-31-2013, 07:09 AM

Dresses up as the Duffman but doesn't drink? That would be slightly odd.

But yeah, domestic issues can be really tricky to get a handle on. Tons of lies easily fly around both ways when people who feel hurt start looking for public sympathy.

Personally, I think stuff like this is between them and the law, not for me to take a stand on.

But knowing the US system, it's perfectly possible the girl is a gold digger looking for a nice settlement, and will say anything to get it.

Resolute 14 · 10-31-2013, 07:15 AM

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If this story is true, things just got significantly better for Varly.

Agreed. And that story is more in line with a misdemeanor assault charge than the other story was.

Enoch Root · 10-31-2013, 08:06 AM

I don't think names should be released to the public in these situations.

His name is mud now, whether he actually did anything or not.

How about innocent until proven guilty?

If found guilty, then by all means, drag him through the mud. Until then, names should not be released.

Table 5 · 10-31-2013, 08:13 AM

So either he's a woman beater, or she's gone psycho and trying to ruin his life after being rejected. These are the types of situations where I'd rather they all clear it up before jumping to any judgements...it's a little too serious to joke about.

But guilty or not, there's irreversible damage to this guys reputation, which never seems right.

MissTeeks · 10-31-2013, 08:16 AM

It's an Olympic conspiracy apparently:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...iacontentstory

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But it’s impossible to ignore the hockey-related fallout when you have a Russian politician claiming the arrest may be an effort by the U.S. (or, one assumes, the accuser) to undermine his nation’s Olympic team in the 2014 Sochi Olympics by affecting Varlamov's "readiness."

Seriously.

From Voice of Russia, Igor Ananskykh, head of the State Duma Committee for Physical Culture in Russia (part of the Russian government’s lower house), said:

"The situation is really strange, given that the Sochi Olympics will take place soon and Varlamov is a candidate to become part of our national hockey team which we do count on. What about presumption of innocence? It’s not normal at all. Varlamov will fall out of the training process which will have an impact on his readiness before the Olympics in Sochi. The first thing that comes to my mind is that it is an effort to weaken our national team.”

Table 5 · 10-31-2013, 08:29 AM

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So even if he is guilty you think the damage to his reputation is not right? You must mean "But if not guilty..."

Yeah, that one....poor writing on my part. Obviously if the guy is guilty he deserves a shaming.

jschick88 · 10-31-2013, 08:30 AM

@TheFourthPeriod Varlamov's alleged victim, model Eugenia Vavrinyuk, posted on a Russian social media site (VKontakte) about the incident before deleting it

Fan in Exile · 10-31-2013, 08:44 AM

Domestic assault cases often do not result in convictions due to retractions or unreliability of victim's evidence. It's also usually a matter of time before there is another incident and the justice system goes through the same cycle. Rarely is a domestic abuse charge a one-off.

Fair not to judge unti lthe matter is settled but I wouldn't be influenced by what his dad said or any Russian media reports. I mean the Russian deny that Syria used chemical weapons.

Because Varlymov is not a citizen, a conviction can cause him serious immigration issues. I would expect him to have to surrender his passport as a bail condition. Otherwise, he is clearly a flight risk to go back home and play in the KHL. If Russia isn't going to extradite Snowden, they aren't going to return their starter at Sochi who they believe has had charges trumped up to thwart their gold medal chances.

GGG · 10-31-2013, 08:54 AM

Because these chargers are misdemenor charges it shouldn't affect his ability to cross boarders. If you are convicted of a DUI in Canada you can still travel freely to the US because it is only a misdemenor conviction. Not sure if that affects work Visas the same way though.

Table 5 · 10-31-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GGG

Because these chargers are misdemenor charges it shouldn't affect his ability to cross boarders. If you are convicted of a DUI in Canada you can still travel freely to the US because it is only a misdemenor conviction. Not sure if that affects work Visas the same way though.

Are you sure about that? From watching Border Security (awesome show btw), Americans with DUI convictions get turned away at the border all the time. They either need to get a pardon or wait something like 10 years after their conviction to be let in.

strombad · 10-31-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Are you sure about that? From watching Border Security (awesome show btw), Americans with DUI convictions get turned away at the border all the time. They either need to get a pardon or wait something like 10 years after their conviction to be let in.

That's true.

About being turned away, AND about how that is an awesome show!

Fan in Exile · 10-31-2013, 09:09 AM

Not sure if misdemanor convictions make him inadmissible to the US but if he is convicted of assault and forcible confinement, he will be inadmissible to Canada. I also think he should have to surrender his passport. He's a flight risk. Why wouldn't he consider going back to Russia. If Kovalchuk can turn his back on the kind of guaranteed money he was offered, what's stopping someone in Varlamov's position?

You Need a Thneed · 10-31-2013, 09:16 AM

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18 pm Moscow time.

Is this 6 pm or 6 am?

driveway · 10-31-2013, 09:27 AM

Considering that the level of kidnapping charge involves "transporting someone against their will" I could easily see a lawyer deciding to throw that at the wall to see if it sticks if, in fact what happened was Varlamov drove his ex girlfriend to a new apartment or a hotel or something.

Lawyer: So he then drove you to the hotel?
Client: Yes.
Lawyer: Did you want to go?
Client: No, he wanted me out of the house, I wanted to stay and try to work things out.
Lawyer: So he transported you against your will?
Client: I guess so.
Lawyer: We'll charge him with felony kidnapping. That'll get his attention.

Drury18 · 10-31-2013, 09:31 AM

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The whole media report has a sketchy feeling to it...

Why is she sending out glamour shots (not injury photos) hours after the news broke to be posted up through her lawyer?

Why is the lawyer talking about an open case based on one persons (victim) account... I don't know, it just has a weird vibe to it all

I have to say, this also struck me as really odd when watching the report. The first photo of the face I could understand, but the second photo choice was definitely a model like shot. It made very little sense why you would release that in a situation like this. Most times in the media, the photo's released of the victim is something off Facebook or Twitter and a little less professional looking.

Drury18 · 10-31-2013, 10:03 AM

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Is this 6 pm or 6 am?

6pm. Europeans have weird ways of saying time.

Resolute 14 · 10-31-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GGG

Because these chargers are misdemenor charges it shouldn't affect his ability to cross boarders. If you are convicted of a DUI in Canada you can still travel freely to the US because it is only a misdemenor conviction. Not sure if that affects work Visas the same way though.

The kidnapping charge is a felony.

shootsscores · 10-31-2013, 10:23 AM

Some of the reactions in this thread are ridiculous, and from both sides of the coin. Try to be above the media and not pass judgement until the facts are actually out there, see this for what it is, just another sensationalized news report. I don't see anyone really defending Varlamov's actions, but the people calling to have the book thrown at him just STOP. We don't have a clue what happened yet. If you want to speculate, fine, but don't call the girl OR the guy a monster until you have some semblance of a story, and that doesn't include a breaking news segment or the lawyer of one of the parties involved.

Flamenspiel · 10-31-2013, 10:28 AM

^^"Above the Media" Are you kidding? there are no professional standards on an internet forum. Hyperbole and overreaction is what its all about.

Table 5 · 10-31-2013, 10:33 AM

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6pm. Europeans have weird ways of saying time.

18:00 already implies a PM. It's not a weird way, it's actually more accurate as there there is no need for the AM/PM qualifier.