Erixon set to star in the AHL

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I'm a fan of Kent's work. And while the article ended up not representing what happened in the long run, it is a viewpoint many people had at the time. Even many posters on CP.

Not everyone shared that viewpoint.

I thought Erixon wanted NY for personal reasons - Wilson used it as a chance to take a couple shots at the organization. Calling the return magic beans was unprofessional. He had an agenda with that article (as most writers do with most articles) and now it has come back to make him look foolish.

It happens.

But it goes way past the fact that things can turn out unexpectedly in time.

I like when people get called out for overly aggressive or one-sided viewpoints. If you want to make them, you should expect them to be called out.

[cannon7]

If not for Erixon blowing his career up, maybe Brodie doesn't get the chance he did and emerge as a 24 minute a night guy. Funny how things turn out.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I'm a fan of Kent's work. And while the article ended up not representing what happened in the long run, it is a viewpoint many people had at the time. Even many posters on CP.

Fair enough regarding his work. I just thought your reaction a little over the top. Especially comparing his historical work to that of a poster on a forum. I figure we should hold them to different standards sometimes.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Fair enough regarding his work. I just thought your reaction a little over the top. Especially comparing his historical work to that of a poster on a forum. I figure we should hold them to different standards sometimes.

Haha. You shoulda saw what I had on that post before I edited it. It was far grumpier.

[Robbob]

Calling second rounders magic beans is a bit of a disservice. A lot of good players are drafted in the second round. Some contending teams are where they are because of players drafted in the second round.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Oh man does that Kent Wilson article look absurd now.

We'll keep those "magic beans" Kent, they're blossoming quite nicely actually.

And the crying about Calgary getting a "stigma"? Haven't had trouble signing prospects since then. In fact we're attracting guys (see Knight).

Terrible editorial.

We're attracting prospects because we're perceived as being terrible, so there are opportunities. We didn't change our philosophy because we had an epiphany of how to build a winner. We're in this position because Feaster has built a bad hockey team.

As for the stigma, yeah it had been an ongoing criticism of the Flames but still this was just a red herring that Tom used as he wanted to be with the Rangers. Anyways all in all it looks good on Tom. I hope he becomes a tweener for years to come.

[FAN]

I don't understand the criticism of Kent's article, considering that it was written at a time when most of us here thought Feaster was crazy and stupid for thinking that the team was playoff bound. Do people not understand that news articles are suppose to reflect the times? It's not like Kent was making predictions.

There was little wrong with the article at the time. Erixon was widely considered the team's top prospect and it is thought that Erixon's stock had rose since he was drafted. Was Erixon NHL ready? Not quite, but he was seemingly close. Did he have top 4 potential? Yes he did. Were 2nd round picks guaranteed to produce top 4 defensemen or top 6 forwards? Nope. Is trading a former first rounder with top 4 potential for an average prospect and two 2nd round picks generally a good idea? Nope. Were the Flames seemingly reluctant to integrate youth into the lineup? It's a reasonable argument. Did the Flames have a bad reputation for giving youth a chance at the time? I suppose.

Seriously... are some of us really denying the fact that the team was considered somewhat a joke because of the team's refusal to rebuild? After the Erixon trade, it took Feaster almost two years to admit defeat and finally try to rebuild this team. Things are finally looking up now, let's not forget that it wasn't too long ago when most of us thought that things were pretty bleak with the team refusing to realize that the team wasn't a playoff team.

[FlameZilla]

Just a random thought, but would anyone be open to re-acquiring Tom? There's no room in Columbus for him & despite all our hatred & joy at his struggles he's probably due to break out as a legit NHL blue liner very soon...

[sa226]

Though this trade is looking better and better for us. It sure would be nice to have another young top 2 Dman with star potential in the line-up

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Just a random thought, but would anyone be open to re-acquiring Tom? There's no room in Columbus for him & despite all our hatred & joy at his struggles he's probably due to break out as a legit NHL blue liner very soon...

If he agreed to get his head out of his butt and would accept a trade to the Flames, I'd rather have him on the team then Butler. Even if he didn't make the team, it would be great to have him in the system

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by FAN

I don't understand the criticism of Kent's article, considering that it was written at a time when most of us here thought Feaster was crazy and stupid for thinking that the team was playoff bound. Do people not understand that news articles are suppose to reflect the times? It's not like Kent was making predictions.
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It is the magic beans comment I think that people are reacting too. Certainly I think that applies to Horak as at the time he looked like a toss-in. But two 2nd round picks was something that an organization, lacking picks, actually needed. If they were 4th and 5th round picks sure - but 2nds have value clearly.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Just a random thought, but would anyone be open to re-acquiring Tom? There's no room in Columbus for him & despite all our hatred & joy at his struggles he's probably due to break out as a legit NHL blue liner very soon...

I think Erixon's mentality is the complete opposite of what the organization is looking for. His me-first and me-only attitude is more suited for the Oilers.

[FlameZilla]

Is my memory correct? Magic Beans = Horak, Granlund & Wotherspoon? 3 solid prospects for the price of 1 is a good deal, which Feaster managed to haggle in a very short time-frame. I'm sure Kent Wilson would recognise this in retrospect.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Calling second rounders magic beans is a bit of a disservice. A lot of good players are drafted in the second round. Some contending teams are where they are because of players drafted in the second round.

I think it's maybe because we are so unfamiliar with second round prospects from the Sutter era.

[saillias]

In retrospect it was a better return than what we got for Regehr... or Phaneuf

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by saillias

In retrospect it was a better return than what we got for Regehr... or Phaneuf

or Gilmour
or Savard
or Giguere...

[automaton 3]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

I think it's maybe because we are so unfamiliar with second round prospects from the Sutter era.

This, and drafting for this organization in general has improved in recent years.

"Magic beans" was a little over the top though.

[Wastedyouth]

A. We had no idea who the two second rounders would be, and as of yet neither are NHLers or even very close to being.

B. I'm sure he wasn't the only one who said Roman who-rak? When the trade went down.

So in effect, yes, it was magic beans. But we ended up getting a nice bean stock out of them.

What an odd thing to get upset about.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

or Gilmour
or Savard
or Giguere...

#### you for bringin up that trade, just when I think I have banished from my memory......

[Bertuzzied]

It still bottles my mind why people who hate Erixon still like Gilmour or Niewendyk. Both of those greedy dbagslost all my respect when they requested to leave.