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Old 07-27-2005, 08:25 PM   #61
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I agree that Telus had the right to protect their information as well as their employees.

I just don't think they went about it in the right way. Contacting the site's host, going to the courts to get that judgement, those are the right ways. That they got the result they were looking for doesn't justify their actions in my mind.

By doing it themselves they are acting as judge and jury in deciding what is right and wrong, avoiding any kind of process.

And on your last point I totally agree.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:37 PM   #62
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As a side note, and one I find particularly amusing, the union thinks it will be able to fine me $1000 for every time I cross the picket line. It's part of my contract with the union. (They'll apparently be trying to fine a heck of a lot of people in the coming days....) However, as I've just discovered, I am actually no longer apart of the union. As per my union agreement, I am part of the union so long as I work for Telus under their contract. I am not doing so if I cross the picket line, I am working under a contract that Telus proposed to the union, and I individually accepted. Because the union did not accept it, I am not working under them. Much like the management who is also working for Telus, but not under the union, I now have my own contract with Telus... HAHAHAHAHAHA... when the union tries to collect it's fines from us, they are going to be in for a rude surprise when they find out they have no legal jurisdiction to do so!
So if the Union get a large wage increase then you will not get that since you are no longer a union members?
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:28 PM   #63
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They'll force me back in, I'm sure.... but I can't see it happening, as I've already gotten my raise.
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:33 PM   #64
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Originally posted by Coolsurfer79+Jul 27 2005, 09:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Coolsurfer79 @ Jul 27 2005, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FireFly@Jul 27 2005, 07:02 PM
As a side note, and one I find particularly amusing, the union thinks it will be able to fine me $1000 for every time I cross the picket line. It's part of my contract with the union. (They'll apparently be trying to fine a heck of a lot of people in the coming days....) However, as I've just discovered, I am actually no longer apart of the union. As per my union agreement, I am part of the union so long as I work for Telus under their contract. I am not doing so if I cross the picket line, I am working under a contract that Telus proposed to the union, and I individually accepted. Because the union did not accept it, I am not working under them. Much like the management who is also working for Telus, but not under the union, I now have my own contract with Telus... HAHAHAHAHAHA... when the union tries to collect it's fines from us, they are going to be in for a rude surprise when they find out they have no legal jurisdiction to do so!
So if the Union get a large wage increase then you will not get that since you are no longer a union members? [/b][/quote]
Not if Telus feels that she has earned that smae or more wage increase by working hard and helping out in a situation that did/could have oimpacted their ability to serve their customers.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:32 AM   #65
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So if the Union get a large wage increase then you will not get that since you are no longer a union members?
Unless the Union wins the biggest wage increase in the history of labour relations, Firefly and other Telus employees that crossed the picket line will still have made more money then those that are striking would gain back for a long time, and the longer the strike goes on the worse it is for the strikers. Thats the thing about striking, it just doesn't make economic sense for union members in the long term, its wages lost that they'll never see again.
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