Season Kick-off pressers Sept 30. Burke @ 11:45 AM. Feaster @ 1 PM

[stemit14]

Sven is a great player. He just needs the team to show some confidence in him. Give him top line minutes and top powerplay and he won't disappoint.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by fotze

I wish all people got motivated the same way but I know they don't. Interesting how they handle this. I hope they fire this shot over the bow but keep him up and see how he responds. I think they need to let him play at least a game or two to really decide. Maybe he doesn't want to get hurt by a U of A scrub. If he puts 5 poor games, send him down.

Some players like Rob Neidermayer are just awesome in practice and exhibition games and then just go through the coach's motions during the game. Some players cannot find motivation until the game starts.

I am all for tough love, and I don't know what is going on behind the scenes or even on the ice that I am missing. But does every player have to fit the same Steve Yzerman mold. It is old school thinking where you concentrate on your weaknesses, I am more of the work on your weaknesses but focus on your strengths.

Also there is always a risk of a move like this publicly. You are now reducing the players value a bit and are also risking him tanking to get traded. Sven wouldn't care at that point about what the return is. Just saying that's a potential risk. The Savard effect.

Also shudder to think what will become of Gaudreau when they try to make him into Scotty Nichol.

That said, if he is blatantly not doing things and being a bitch then go for it Burke.

Oh for Pete's sake their not asking skilled players to become Scott Nichols, people need to stop overreacting. Good players play hard in all 3 zones, it means not floating around, picking up your assignments, moving your feet, playing hard every shift and not just when you've got the puck in the offensive zone.

Sven will be fine, but by all accounts he had a poor camp and if he gets called out for it, so be it. I don't want some daisy as our future franchise player so he better suck it up and play hard...

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Sven is a great player. He just needs the team to show some confidence in him. Give him top line minutes and top powerplay and he won't disappoint.

Team stance has to be: "Earn it". There's a difference between being a player like Huselius and being a player like Elias.

Work ethic in all 3 zones.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Sven is a great player. He just needs the team to show some confidence in him. Give him top line minutes and top powerplay and he won't disappoint.

Yeah, honestly, I wish they would just do this for once. Give him a chance to play with the best line mates, on the top line, without any reason to have to "earn it". It seems like he's been put in every single position except the one that he is obviously suited for.

He is not the all around superstar everyone wants him to be. There's a reason he was drafted in the mid first round and not Top 5. He's a sniper and a playmaker, but with holes on the back end....and you know what, that's ok.

Let him do what he is effin good at, not try to turn him into Joe Sakic.

[Savvy27]

I get the feeling that we are being prepared for Baertschi's demotion. After initially hating the idea, I wouldn't mind it so much. If the Heat can be a top team and our young players develop some swagger and a taste for winning, that would be preferable to the constant negativity that will probably follow the Flames around once the losses start piling up.

I really like Sven and I was hoping to see him on the Flames, but young guys have to make it unthinkable for the franchise to send them down if they want job security and he definitely has not done that.

[StrykerSteve]

Feaster is being broadcast live - http://video.flames.nhl.com/videocen...id=DL|CGY|home

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by browna

Fully agree with that all...I just don't agree with your thought that Feaster in the GM seat means he's not going anywhere. Feaster's opinion has suddenly started to change since Burke got there, with only really less than 2 weeks of training camp to base those "changes of thoughts" since April. We'll see what his comments are on Sven in the next half hour or so.

Well trading a guy like Sven is counterproductive with everything the Flames are now trying to sell in the rebuild. General lack of patience and trading 20 year old top prospects while they are still developing got Mike Milbury his stellar reputation. Right now I feel this is just a bit of hard love from the Flames.

[MissTeeks]

Scott Cruickshank‏@CruickshankCH1m
#Flames Burke on Monahan: "If this guy turns into a star, I can't take one shred of credit -- I wasn't here. But I'm sure impressed." #nhlpn

[Freeway]

The thing with Gaudreau is that the Flames have the ability to give him feedback and to work with Boston College's coaches in regards to what he needs to work on. And they get three-to-four years of tinkering from afar before they get him in Calgary or Abbotsford.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Sven is a great player. He just needs the team to show some confidence in him. Give him top line minutes and top powerplay and he won't disappoint.

Great players don't require top line minutes and PP time to be handed to them, they take the choice out of the coaches hand by earning them before they get them.

If "that's all" that Sven requires to become a great player, he's not someone I want as a corner stone of this franchise. For the record, I think it's way too early to worry about Sven either way, and if he needs to play AHL for one more year so be it, I'm not even close to worrying about the type of player he is, but this talk about we are trying to make him a plugger or a two way player is rediculous. Clearly they simply want the guy to go balls out every shift, versus skating around and picking his spots. This isn't about trying to turn Sven into Scotty Nichol (realize you didn't say it was), it's about makeing Sven carry himself, put in effort and act the way the organization wants the team to play.

Do you guys honestly think Crosby takes shifts off or only tries in one end of the ice. He has his strengths and weaknesses (very few mind you) but I guarantee he competes ALWAYS. Sven apparently needs to learn this still, glad the Flames are trying to get through.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Yeah, honestly, I wish they would just do this for once. Give him a chance to play with the best line mates, on the top line, without any reason to have to "earn it". It seems like he's been put in every single position except the one that he is obviously suited for.

He is not the all around superstar everyone wants him to be. There's a reason he was drafted in the mid first round and not Top 5. He's a sniper and a playmaker, but with holes on the back end....and you know what, that's ok.

Let him do what he is effin good that, not try to turn him into Joe Sakic.

I agree with this and in all honesty I think Sven is much better defensively than people are giving him credit for.

You put him with Backlund and leave him with Backlund and I bet Sven has a lot of success from the get go.

[Goodlad]

Sieloff to Abbotsford, Breen injured non-roster player, Cammy on IR

[StrykerSteve]

Horak to Abby.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Yeah, honestly, I wish they would just do this for once. Give him a chance to play with the best line mates, on the top line, without any reason to have to "earn it". It seems like he's been put in every single position except the one that he is obviously suited for.

Do you have any experience playing on teams? What you are talking about is typically how you go about dividing a locker room and creating resentment amongst the ranks.

[Husky]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Great players don't require top line minutes and PP time to be handed to them, they take the choice out of the coaches hand by earning them before they get them.

If "that's all" that Sven requires to become a great player, he's not someone I want as a corner stone of this franchise. For the record, I think it's way too early to worry about Sven either way, and if he needs to play AHL for one more year so be it, I'm not even close to worrying about the type of player he is, but this talk about we are trying to make him a plugger or a two way player is rediculous. Clearly they simply want the guy to go balls out every shift, versus skating around and picking his spots. This isn't about trying to turn Sven into Scotty Nichol (realize you didn't say it was), it's about makeing Sven carry himself, put in effort and act the way the organization wants the team to play.

Do you guys honestly think Crosby takes shifts off or only tries in one end of the ice. He has his strengths and weaknesses (very few mind you) but I guarantee he competes ALWAYS. Sven apparently needs to learn this still, glad the Flames are trying to get through.

Crosby is a generational talent. Baerischi has the potential to be a top 6 scoring threat. Just like Iginla, who was never defensive nor tried hard in his own zone. The guy was there to score...score more times than he was on the ice for goals against.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

Sieloff to Abbotsford, Breen injured non-roster player, Cammy on IR

Blair Jones, Patrick Sieloff, Roman Horak and Reto Berra to AHL

[Goodlad]

Feaster on Berra: Believe could be everyday #1 goalie in NHL. Feels Ramo is slightly ahead of him right now.

[getbak]

Street cleared waivers, but wasn't sent down.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by getbak

Street cleared waivers, but wasn't sent down.

Neither was Derek Smith

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Skaloper

I think Sven is the least of our problems when players like Cammy last season were -15... and Sven's +/- was 0

But I guess pre-season means everything.

Pre-season is generally all a young guy has to prove themselves. It DOES mean everything to them. I think the problem here is Sven thought he was getting a guarantee when the club switched to the rebuild structure with him being one of the obvious top-guys going forward. Believing his own press a bit and got dissapointed with where he was slotted at the beginning. I don't think sending him down is what needs to be done, but he needs a reality check for sure. Hopefully hearing it from the big boss is all he needs.