The "Metropolitan" Division???

[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by valo403

Kind of ironic that you don't include the metro areas of those cities in a discussion about the applicability of metropolitan to them.

I'm not the one who decided to use city proper numbers. The poster I was replying to did. He would have been really far off if he'd used the metro numbers which are really the appropriate ones to use.

[troutman]

[valo403]

Originally Posted by WilderPegasus

I'm not the one who decided to use city proper numbers. The poster I was replying to did. He would have been really far off if he'd used the metro numbers which are really the appropriate ones to use.

They certainly are, which makes it really odd that you went out and used city proper numbers. The poster you replies to didn't break down the cities at all, so we actually have no idea what numbers he looked at.

[Resolute 14]

Not to mention that in discussions like this, most people treat "city" and "metro" as synonymous. You were the one who chose to use city proper numbers, Wilder. Don't pass the blame onto others.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by troutman

It looks so logical until you look at the Florida teams. I wonder what politics caused them to add the southern most teams in the eastern conference to the division with the northern most teams?

[moon]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It looks so logical until you look at the Florida teams. I wonder what politics caused them to add the southern most teams in the eastern conference to the division with the northern most teams?

Keeping Philly and Pittsburgh together seems to be the reasoning that I have heard.

Looking at the map swapping Columbus and Pittsburgh with Florida and TB makes the most sense geographically although it makes that division a killer and the "Metropolitan" division a joke.

But every report I have heard is that they wanted Philly and Pitts together.

[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by valo403

They certainly are, which makes it really odd that you went out and used city proper numbers. The poster you replies to didn't break down the cities at all, so we actually have no idea what numbers he looked at.

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Not to mention that in discussions like this, most people treat "city" and "metro" as synonymous. You were the one who chose to use city proper numbers, Wilder. Don't pass the blame onto others.

It's pretty freaking obvious to anyone with any semblance of intelligence that that poster meant cities proper instead of metro populations when he stated the metro division has a population of 20M while the New York metro area alone has over 23M. My apologies if you two weren't smart enough to figure it out.

[Stay Golden]

The naming of that East division as the Metropolitan division is pure stupidity the thing really has me boggled is that the owners would have had to sign off on that steaming pile of a divisional name and they all know with their own private enterprises how important a name and branding is to a business.

The Metropolitan did Gary source that D-bag line Abercrombie & Fitch to come up with this, sounds like it.
Honestly it sounds like a lame club, Hi welcome to the Metropolitan.

Pacific
West ( Central RIP)
Atlantic
East (Metro RIP)

Wow that was really hard Gary.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by moon

Keeping Philly and Pittsburgh together seems to be the reasoning that I have heard.

Looking at the map swapping Columbus and Pittsburgh with Florida and TB makes the most sense geographically although it makes that division a killer and the "Metropolitan" division a joke.

But every report I have heard is that they wanted Philly and Pitts together.

That and not breaking up the NY teams I imagine. Do the Devils really have a big rivalry with the NY teams?

[troutman]

I played with this alignment a few years ago:


Upper Canada: Mtl, Ott, Que, Tor, Ham

Rust Belt: Buff, Cle, Cbj, Was, Pit

Atlantic: Nyi, Nj, Nyr, Phi, Bos

Great Lakes: Mil, Min, Chi, Stl, Det

North West: Win, Cgy, Edm, Van, Col

South West: Kc, Sj, Dal, La, Lv

[mac_82]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It looks so logical until you look at the Florida teams. I wonder what politics caused them to add the southern most teams in the eastern conference to the division with the northern most teams?

Probably to split up the butt-soup that was the SE division.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by troutman

To me, it makes more sense to throw Boston into the yellow group (Metro); Carolina and the Floridas into the red group (Murica); and Chicago, Minny and Wpg into the blue group (Great Lakes)

[valo403]

Originally Posted by WilderPegasus

It's pretty freaking obvious to anyone with any semblance of intelligence that that poster meant cities proper instead of metro populations when he stated the metro division has a population of 20M while the New York metro area alone has over 23M. My apologies if you two weren't smart enough to figure it out.

And you posted the city proper populations why?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

To me, it makes more sense to throw Boston into the yellow group (Metro); Carolina and the Floridas into the red group (Murica); and Chicago, Minny and Wpg into the blue group (Great Lakes)

Assuming the 32-team NHL has teams in Quebec and Hamilton/K-W/GTA, that allows for an easy slide of the Florida teams into the Central and Colorado to the Pacific. The Avs are ideally situated that, with the exception of Nashville, they are only one time zone away from their divisional rivals in either the Central or Pacific. Makes them easy to move when the time comes.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

The naming of that East division as the Metropolitan division is pure stupidity the thing really has me boggled is that the owners would have had to sign off on that steaming pile of a divisional name and they all know with their own private enterprises how important a name and branding is to a business.

The Metropolitan did Gary source that D-bag line Abercrombie & Fitch to come up with this, sounds like it.
Honestly it sounds like a lame club, Hi welcome to the Metropolitan.

Pacific
West ( Central RIP)
Atlantic
East (Metro RIP)

Wow that was really hard Gary.

Good thing that division names aren't really part of any teams brand. Your plan would be even sillier, the East Division of the Eastern Conference? There are probably better choices than Metropolitan, but it's really not that big of a deal.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That and not breaking up the NY teams I imagine. Do the Devils really have a big rivalry with the NY teams?

Yes, and with Philly.

[Canada 02]

the Pennsylvania teams and the Florida teams should swap

[craigwd]

Originally Posted by valo403

Good thing that division names aren't really part of any teams brand. Your plan would be even sillier, the East Division of the Eastern Conference?

And yet it's okay for the WHL?

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It looks so logical until you look at the Florida teams. I wonder what politics caused them to add the southern most teams in the eastern conference to the division with the northern most teams?

Having Toronto, Boston, Montreal, Detroit and, to a lesser degree, Ottawa in their division will help with ticket sales.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by craigwd

And yet it's okay for the WHL?

I don't know the WHL division names, but if that's the case it's silly.