Calgary-born 'Glee' star dead at 31

[Galakanokis]

I met him and Lea Michelle at that Canucks game they were at, some of the pictures are from that. Shot a couple of goofy promos with them. They seemed nice enough and quite funny as well.

Didnt know his name, just the Glee guy.

[T@T]

Amazing how many people who seem smart can be so dumb.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by T@T

Amazing how many people who seem smart can be so dumb.

I don't know if that's really fair, as he didn't make this decision as an adult. He made it long before he was fully developed.

You can call him a stupid kid at the time he started using drugs, but even that's kind of crappy, as you don't know his background. Lots of kids aren't raised properly and/or have terrible childhoods, or just run with the wrong crowd before they're old enough to not make bad decisions.

Any drug addictions he was battling as an adult would have been from when he was a kid, especially heroin. CC made a good post about Heroin. Your chances of fully recovering from a heroin addiction are next to none.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Crazy how "Entertainment" shows are dedicating full programs to this guy. Not saying it's not a tragedy on its own right, but is a supporting actor on Glee really worth this much attention?

Only recently had he become supporting, he was the lead for the first 2 seasons and much of the show's success can be attributed to him.

[Daradon]

When will people learn, that if your going to self medicate, you have to mix uppers with downers. You never double down on one type.

[Clarkey]

Originally Posted by Daradon

When will people learn, that if your going to self medicate, you have to mix uppers with downers. You never double down on one type.

Just curious, which category are booze and heroin in?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Daradon

When will people learn, that if your going to self medicate, you have to mix uppers with downers. You never double down on one type.

mixing uppers and downers is pretty rough on the heart too. Just stick to one!

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by Clarkey

Just curious, which category are booze and heroin in?

downers

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

He was doomed once he got his first hit of Heroin. Brutal.

People don't understand that Heroin is as close to instantly addictive as it gets. Not only do you crave it on a mental level because of the intense feeling of well being that it gives you, but physically your body craves it. The high gets shorter and shorter and eventually your not getting that feeling of well being, but if you don't use it you become massively sick until you get it. Its a nasty and mean drug and for a lot of addicts the greatest mercy is simply dying.

Crack is very similar it gives you a short intense high and you get a physical craving for it.

Chemical drugs are insidious because they are formulated to be that bloody addictive and once they get into you you need to have it.

Heroin and Crack and Crystal meth have a very low chance for recovery especially the first time around. Heroin I know is about 10% recover with half of that 10% relapsing at least once.

Crack I think is about 25%. Meth is very low as well.

Heroin's best hope for recovery is basically hooking you on methadone and then weaning you off of methodone. But Methadone is also very addicting and the withdraw from that can be pretty ugly.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Clarkey

Just curious, which category are booze and heroin in?

Both are depressants (downers). Heroin obviously being a big one, but alcohol magnifies most medications as it is, and is also a depressant itself. Which is why people pass out from too much.

Together, they slow your heart right down, can even stop it. You just die from lack of oxygen to the brain.

Or, like in many shows, they can make you throw up and being unconscious, you choke on your own vomit.

EDIT: And of course my first post was tongue in cheek, almost wanted to see if I could get a hand wringer to cuss me out, lol. I of course advocate no drug use (on a public forum )

[atb]

So a Calgary Herald "journalist" is stirring up some controversy suggesting that Cory wouldn't have died had he been in other Canadian city and using his death to promote her agenda against Insite (safe injection site in Vancouver). Pretty awful 'journalism' all around in this article. Some of the more painful parts:

Ask any informed Vancouverite where you could pick up a bit of heroin and they’d be able to tell you. Everyone from teetotalling old ladies with blue hair to a straight-A student in elementary school — all know if you want hard, illicit drugs, just go to the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver and heroin will be as easy to acquire as chewing gum.

So the question is, if Monteith were visiting virtually any other city in Canada, would he have been able to find heroin? Would he have died? I think the likelihood is much lower.

Several years ago, while partaking in one of my addictions — the double crunch sushi roll at Midori Japanese Restaurant on 17th Avenue — I overheard a group of three young people talking excitedly about how on their upcoming trip to Vancouver, they intended to drop by InSite to try heroin for the first time. I have since long wished I had butted into their conversation and intervened.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/s...tml?id=8678866

And a recent interview with a Vancouver radio station shows how out of touch with reality she is: https://soundcloud.com/cknwnewstalk9...dliciacorbella

[burn_this_city]

Lately a lot of the Herald columnists have been terrible they come across as out of touch ideologues. This column was by far one of the stupidest ones I've read in quite a while. The comparison of a heroin addiction to a sushi addiction was really the worst part.

[Vulcan]

East Hastings or the Corner, has been known as a heroin area since before I was born and long before Insite was around. It has a long history probably dating from the Chinese opium dens and it being a port with a large number of sailors.

[d_phaneuf]

it's the complete lack of credible journalism

the first thing is that you don't get drugs at inSite, you get clean needles, 20 seconds of research would have shown that

because the police in Montreal wouldn't tell her where to buy Heroin she thinks they don't know the areas where it's bought?

The whole argument that you couldn't find drug ___ in any major city is naive

and then taking personal anecdotes and treating them as evidence for a larger based truth

if she had put maybe a few hours of lazy research in to that story she probably could have found something to link drug use in Vancouver with a death, it would have been reckless journalism but at least it wouldn't have been as bad as it turned out

she's somehow the editor?!?!?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by atb

So a Calgary Herald "journalist" is stirring up some controversy suggesting that Cory wouldn't have died had he been in other Canadian city and using his death to promote her agenda against Insite (safe injection site in Vancouver). Pretty awful 'journalism' all around in this article. Some of the more painful parts:

Several years ago, while partaking in one of my addictions — the double crunch sushi roll at Midori Japanese Restaurant on 17th Avenue — I overheard a group of three young people talking excitedly about how on their upcoming trip to Vancouver, they intended to drop by InSite to try heroin for the first time. I have since long wished I had butted into their conversation and intervened.

I would put money that this is a figment of the imagination of the "journalist"... in all my life I don't think I have ever heard of anything this stupid that it almost has to be full of crap. People who do heroin don't take road trips to do so.

Also I don't think she is aware that inSite doesn't sell drugs.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I would put money that this is a figment of the imagination of the "journalist"... in all my life I don't think I have ever heard of anything this stupid that it almost has to be full of crap. People who do heroin don't take road trips to do so.

Also I don't think she is aware that inSite doesn't sell drugs.

Yeah she's aware of that.

The next step is easy. Wait for an injection drug user to show up, ask them to score you some heroin, grab a few clean, free needles and distilled water, and you’re set.

Of course if you follow her advice, the junkie would just say thanks for the money lady.

[CaptainCrunch]

None of that article makes any sense. CM's death had nothing whatsoever with clean injection sites.

He was staying in a high rent hotel. I doubt he was using dirty needles, a scruffy belt and a unwashed spoon to cook and inject that terrible drug.

People and especially journalists and editorial writters have an amazing ability to turn any event to their benefit.

The question about CM isn't about clean injection sites and their validity. Its about a pretty big problem in cities like Vancouver where you can buy Heroin on any street corner from complete scumbags.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Among the many important services that Insite provides is an effort to prevent overdosing and, if an overdose occurs, there is medical staff that provides immediate care to the person. Cory Monteith might actually be alive today if he was to have actually went to Insite. Of course, Corbella is too obtuse to have thought of that.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Among the many important services that Insite provides is an effort to prevent overdosing and, if an overdose occurs, there is medical staff that provides immediate care to the person. Cory Monteith might actually be alive today if he was to have actually went to Insite. Of course, Corbella is too obtuse to have thought of that.

unlikely that he would ever go to a insite.

I wonder what the percentage of users goes to Insite?

For many Heroin is a pretty private addiction.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

unlikely that he would ever go to a insite.

Oh I agree for sure. There is 0% chance that he would have ever gone to Insite which is unfortunate because he might still be alive if he had overdosed there instead of inside of a hotel room.

Cory Monteith was a millionaire actor who could have probably gotten heroin in just about any area of the world. He likely had a huge entourage who, with enough money, would have found the right people to score heroin just about anywhere.