Poll: Should Iginla's contract be voided by the NHL as cap circumvention?

[Stay Golden]

Base Salary: $1.8 million
Bonus for playing 10 games: $3.7 million
Bonus for scoring 30 goals and team playing 3 rounds in the playoffs: $0.25 million
Bonus for scoring 30 goals and team winning Stanley Cup: $0.25 million

Kind of silly to say Boston is cheating the cap. The cap hit is 6m regardless.
What Iggy will earn realistically is 5.5m.
So is the notion that the Bruins are cheating a measly 500k of cap space if so this argument is hilarious.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Base Salary: $1.8 million
Bonus for playing 10 games: $3.7 million
Bonus for scoring 30 goals and team playing 3 rounds in the playoffs: $0.25 million
Bonus for scoring 30 goals and team winning Stanley Cup: $0.25 million

Kind of silly to say Boston is cheating the cap. The cap hit is 6m regardless.
What Iggy will earn realistically is 5.5m.
So is the notion that the Bruins are cheating a measly 500k of cap space if so this argument is hilarious.

The "cheating" or cap circumvention, if you want to call it that, comes from the fact that some of the cap hit can/will be transfer to next year's higher cap. So they are getting a $6 million player without necessarily using $6 million in cap. I can see why people would consider this a cap circumvention, because in my opinion it's obviously is, but it's not against the rules of the CBA.

[CSharp]

Nah, paying Iggy $6mil/yr is still better than paying Alfie @5mil/yr.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by troutman

The cap is expected to go up next year (and by quite a lot - I've heard $70 M+ ?) so this deferral is clearly monkey business IMO.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle7029575/

With 5% growth, the cap could reach $90M by 2021.

May as well book the lockout now. Amazing that this industry can grow so quickly and yet the owners can cry poor every few years and take hockey away. Isn't the whole point of these lockouts to stop this inflation of the cap?

Clearly if the structure put in place allows for this, the owners can afford it, yet 7 years from now in the next lockout, the majority of CP will once again side with the owners.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by zukes

May as well book the lockout now. Amazing that this industry can grow so quickly and yet the owners can cry poor every few years and take hockey away. Isn't the whole point of these lockouts to stop this inflation of the cap?

Clearly if the structure put in place allows for this, the owners can afford it, yet 7 years from now in the next lockout, the majority of CP will once again side with the owners.

No, the whole point of these lockouts was never to stop inflation of the cap. If it was, the owners would have fought for a hard cap, not one that is tied to revenues. The purpose of the lockouts was to ensure an equitable share of revenue goes to the owners as a collective, and the players as a collective.

As for the significant jump, this year's cap of $64 million is artificially low because damage to the league, and therefore revenue, was predicted as a consequence of the lockout. This year's cap anticipates overall league revenue of $3.3 billion or so - or about the same as what it had in 2011-12. But the reality is, none of the fears of damage came to pass, so it it is expected that next year's cap will rise significantly because it will be adapting to two years of revenue growth.


As far as Iginla's deal and the rising cap goes, it does give the B's extra room to play with this year. The tradeoff, however, is that they will be on a $67 million cap next year when everyone else is at $70 million.

[ricardodw]

Taking Savard's 4M out of the cap Boston currently has cap space left for this season of just over 2M.

If they don't get injuries and go with this line up the whole year Iginla's 6 M goes against this years cap.

If they are forced to over-spend the cap they have the 3.7 they can use from Iginla's "performance" bonus.

This is just so similar to the situation that the Flames were in in 2008-09 with Iginla in the Jokinen role. .... the superstar in decline.

This might work for Boston... although Eriksson and Iginla will not be an improvement over Seguin and Horton. And Bartkowski/Hamilton will not likely be be as effective as a #3/4 d-man as Ferrence.


BUT if they need to add players to their roster to cover 3-4 short term injuries and their cap cushion gets eaten away.... instead of them not being able to dress a full line up like the Flames got caught they will be left with Iginla using up cap space in 2014-15 while not playing for them.


Boston is so counting on Chara to be the best D-man in the world at age 37.

If he gets hurt or just falls off in play they will become the 2009-10 Flames that needed every thing to go correctly just to make the playoffs.

Boston is using short term tricks to stretch their time at the top until Chara fails.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Taking Savard's 4M out of the cap Boston currently has cap space left for this season of just over 2M.

If they don't get injuries and go with this line up the whole year Iginla's 6 M goes against this years cap.

Those figures don't include bonuses. If you include their bonuses they are $6M over the cap before accounting for Savard's LTIR.

Given that bonuses cannot be covered with LTIR, there is virtually no chance that Iginla's entire cap hit will be counted in 13-14. They'd have to cut out about $6M from their existing lineup and then go the season without any long term injuries for that to happen.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

This might work for Boston... although Eriksson and Iginla will not be an improvement over Seguin and Horton. And Bartkowski/Hamilton will not likely be be as effective as a #3/4 d-man as Ferrence.

Not sure if I agree...although he played well, Seguin couldn't buy a point in the playoffs...when it comes to a timely goal, I see Iggy or Eriksson being able to come through...

[jlh2640]

I really dont think Seguin played well at all. And I still think a 36 year old Iginla in the right system that isnt based on speed is a huge upgrade of an injury prone, over rated Nathan Horton.