[News] 21 players have filed for salary arbitrartion. UPD: All 21 players settle

[browna]

Gagner certainly expediting his way out of Edmonton with that demand, if even at the end of the year.

Lowe must be fuming, only entertaining question is, does he leak any of that rage publicly?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Anything over $5 is brutal IMO. Bozak getting $4.2 certainly hurts their chances of getting a good deal done. $4.5 on a long term deal would be tolerable I suppose.

Kind of crazy that Hudler @ $4 went from looking like an overpay to normal contract for an average producing munchkin in about a season.

Fortunately for the Oilers, UFA contracts can't be used as comparables in salary arbitration cases.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Kind of crazy that Hudler @ $4 went from looking like an overpay to normal contract for an average producing munchkin in about a season.

Trololol

[Ashasx]

Pretty amazing that after picking 1st three years in a row (and picking all forwards), the Oilers still don't have a second top 6 centre.

I think they really would have loved Monahan.

[Reggie28]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I want to see Kevin Lowes reaction to this.

destroy the future, one player at a time.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Pretty amazing that after picking 1st three years in a row (and picking all forwards), the Oilers still don't have a second top 6 centre.

I think they really would have loved Monahan.

It's true, the management doesn't have faith in Gagner and most fans echo those sentiments. If they truly believed he was a long term fixture on this team, there wouldn't be an arbitration hearing in the first place, nor would there have been MacT publicly addressing the media that Monahan was the guy who they wanted at #7. Despite putting up the point totals, Gagner is an extremely flawed player. Nurse will be alright, but it sucks they missed out on Monahan or Lindholm, should've tanked.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Pretty amazing that after picking 1st three years in a row (and picking all forwards), the Oilers still don't have a second top 6 centre.

I think they really would have loved Monahan.

Thank god they won those games against the Wild and Canucks. Thank you Edmonton

[pikester]

Originally Posted by browna

Gagner certainly expediting his way out of Edmonton with that demand, if even at the end of the year.

Lowe must be fuming, only entertaining question is, does he leak any of that rage publicly?

Not sure why? Gagner asking too much $5.5mil- Oilers predictably low balling him at $3.5mil; ultimately they will meet in the middle on a realistic deal @ $4.5-4.75mil. This is standard contract negotiations. If there ends up being too much bad blood over the whole negotiaton, (which would be ridiculous since Gagner's camp are the ones who filed for it), then Gagner plays his arse off & asks for a trade. That would bode well for the Oilers anyway since he would put up points in a career year, helping the team & garnering higher trade value.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by pikester

Not sure why? Gagner asking too much $5.5mil- Oilers predictably low balling him at $3.5mil; ultimately they will meet in the middle on a realistic deal @ $4.5-4.75mil. This is standard contract negotiations. If there ends up being too much bad blood over the whole negotiaton, (which would be ridiculous since Gagner's camp are the ones who filed for it), then Gagner plays his arse off & asks for a trade. That would bode well for the Oilers anyway since he would put up points in a career year, helping the team & garnering higher trade value.

Not really. The Arb deal will only be one season and then Gagner is a UFA. So the Oilers will get crap value out of trading him if it comes to that.

[pikester]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Not really. The Arb deal will only be one season and then Gagner is a UFA. So the Oilers will get crap value out of trading him if it comes to that.

Possibly but I thought one of the few leverage points a team has over a player of Gagners status in arbitration is they can choose one or two years on the final contract awarded? If that is the case then team would obviously be wise to choose the 2 year term to avoid the option of prospective teams from simply waiting them out until the end of the first season.

The other thing is knowing Gagner is expecting $5+mil his potential target market is not going to be very big; that's a lot of money for a sub 6' center with a lackluster FO%

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by pikester

Possibly but I thought one of the few leverage points a team has over a player of Gagners status in arbitration is they can choose one or two years on the final contract awarded? If that is the case then team would obviously be wise to choose the 2 year term to avoid the option of prospective teams from simply waiting them out until the end of the first season.

The other thing is knowing Gagner is expecting $5+mil his potential target market is not going to be very big; that's a lot of money for a sub 6' center with a lackluster FO%

An Arb deal can't go into UFA seasons I am told so only a one year deal is possible. Oilers would have to dump him for less then full munchkin value.

[Alberta_Beef]

I am not sure why people are surprised by Gagner asking fro 5.5 in arbitration. In the NHL the arbitrator chooses an award between the 2 asking prices, so players will always as high and teams will ask low. It's the nature of the beast.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Interesting that 2 teams account for 9 of 21. Lots of discourse around Wpg but little on LA.

11 players on 3 team, 10 teams with 1 and 17 teams with none.

[UKflames]

Sorry if this has laready been asked but can teams still walk away, making the player a UFA, or are they tied under the new cba??

[Knut]

3 years 14.4 M according to Kypreos. Settled minutes before hearing.

[pikester]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

An Arb deal can't go into UFA seasons I am told so only a one year deal is possible. Oilers would have to dump him for less then full munchkin value.

I guess it can go into UFA! About $250,000 per more than I predicted but not too bad imo.

[Ruttiger]

Originally Posted by pikester

I guess it can go into UFA! About $250,000 per more than I predicted but not too bad imo.

They signed before it went to arbitration. Check the "Gagner Signs" thread.

[sureLoss]

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper 2m #Jets Bryan Little arb hearing sched Wed. With Gagner deal It's believed asking price from Little is 5.5m while Jets come with 3.25m

[MissTeeks]

Another arbitration hearing bites the dust:

Elliotte Friedman‏@FriedgeHNIC1m

Bryan Little 5 yrs, $4.7 AAV with Jets

[Wolven]

And the list is down to 7(?) out of the original 21.

That is a lot of good work by those GMs to get contracts worked out prior to the start of hearings today.

Detroit Red Wings
Brendan Smith
Edmonton Oilers
Sam Gagner
Los Angeles Kings
Trevor Lewis
Alec Martinez
Jake Muzzin
Jordan Nolan
Montreal Canadiens
Ryan White
Nashville Predators
Nick Spaling
New York Islanders
Josh Bailey
New York Rangers
Mats Zuccarello
Ottawa Senators
Eric Condra
Pittsburgh Penguins
Robert Bortuzzo
St. Louis Blues
Chris Stewart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Mark Fraser
Carl Gunnarsson
Vancouver Canucks
Dale Weise
Winnipeg Jets
Zach Bogosian
Bryan Little
Paul Postma
Eric Tangradi
Blake Wheeler