If I was Iginla, I would have picked the Bruins

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

The 2 deals were not "fairly close". There was a reason KK and Feaster tried to talk Iggy to go to Boston for almost 12 hours.

The mess is all on Feaster. If the 2 deals weren't close, Feaster could have told Iginla the Pitt offer was unacceptable - Boston or we wait for a sweeter offer.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Steve Bozek

The mess is all on Feaster. If the 2 deals weren't close, Feaster could have told Iginla the Pitt offer was unacceptable - Boston or we wait for a sweeter offer.

The deal with Pitt would never have gotten better. When Iggy declined with Boston, Pitt knew that he would only go to them. They really didn't even have to throw in the first rounder at that point. KK and Feaster had already spent most of the day trying to convince Iggy to go to Boston, not much more they could do after that.

The only blame that Feaster should get is that he was suppose to get Iggy to sign a piece of paper saying he would go to any of the 4 teams on the list and then submit that to the league. Even if they did that, i doubt Edwards would have strong armed Iggy into going to Boston.

[saillias]

By the old gods and the new, Lord Iginla is being punished for breaking his oath to House Bruin.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

The only blame that Feaster should get is that he was suppose to get Iggy to sign a piece of paper saying he would go to any of the 4 teams on the list and then submit that to the league. Even if they did that, i doubt Edwards would have strong armed Iggy into going to Boston.

Iginla would not have signed that piece of paper because that was not what he was agreeing to. As has been said by everyone involved, Iginla never gave up his right to have the final say in his destination. It's a shame that the urban legend of Iginla going back on his word seems to have become accepted as fact.

[Poe969]

Not only did Iggy change his mind last minute about going to the pens over the bruins and delaying the Flames rebuild by a decade..... I also heard he pee's sitting down.

Who cares. The Pens were loading up and the guy thought they were his best chance at winning a cup. I wouldn't have picked the bruins because I just don't like them. With the Pens, he got to play with the best player in the world, with the bruins he would have had to play with marchand.

I'm just glad that Iggy got traded and the Flames benifited from it. As soon as he left the Flames, I really didn't care that much who he played for.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by gargamel;4276366[B

]Iginla would not have signed that piece of paper because that was not what he was agreeing to[/B]. As has been said by everyone involved, Iginla never gave up his right to have the final say in his destination. It's a shame that the urban legend of Iginla going back on his word seems to have become accepted as fact.

I highly doubt Iggy would not have signed that piece of paper considering that is standard protocal. If he would not have signed the paper management probably would have had a better idea that he only wanted to go to Pitt.

Anyway i am not going to get into it with a "Iggy white night". You "knights" feel Iggy can do no wrong on or off the ice.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Steve Bozek

The mess is all on Feaster. If the 2 deals weren't close, Feaster could have told Iginla the Pitt offer was unacceptable - Boston or we wait for a sweeter offer.

Iggy called the flames bluff. Feaster said at the STH meeting that Iggy was totally ready to play out the string in Calgary and walk in the summer. Feaster also said from ownership down the entire organization tried to sell Iggy on Boston. Jarome said he felt Pitt was his best chance.

Where the flames messed up was interpreting that the list provided by Don Meehan (which included the Bruins) meant Iggy was willing to waive. He was open to those destinations but at the end of the day he wanted Pitt and used his NMC to ensure he got what he wanted.

Iggy made the wrong choice I wanted him to win but don't feel sorry for him at all. The Boston deal was much better than Pitt

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Iginla never agreed to be traded to Boston. He agreed to accept a trade to any one of Boston, LA, Chicago or Pittsburgh if only one of them made an acceptable offer, and he honored that agreement. According to Iginla and King, both Pittsburgh and Boston's offers were acceptable, so Iginla made the decision that he'd earned the right to make. Anyone who holds that against him or makes up a story about how Iginla secretly promised to give up his right to decide his destination and then went back on that promise has to have been looking for an excuse to blame him. I know it's natural to try to tell yourself that your ex is a bad person when things don't work out, but sometimes it's just time to move on and there is no bad guy.

As for whether or not he made the right decision, obviously he did not, but I'm not sure that his decision would have been the wrong one if Crosby hadn't taken that puck to the face or if Crosby had never returned to the lineup. I guess we'll never know.

It's too late to do anything about it now, but hopefully Iginla choses wisely this summer and gets the Cup next year.

I guess I missed where he said "if only one of those teams made an acceptable offer".
My understanding is he agreed to accept a trade to four teams, a trade was made to one of those four teams, then he changed his mind and said only Pittsburgh.

[CSharp]

If I was God, I would've picked the Flames to overcome this crappy season and have them win the Cup and then have them get the first 10 pick in this year's deep draft pick and still have Iggy on the team. WTF's this thread? This forum is being overrun by childish idiots!

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Iginla never agreed to be traded to Boston. He agreed to accept a trade to any one of Boston, LA, Chicago or Pittsburgh if only one of them made an acceptable offer, and he honored that agreement. According to Iginla and King, both Pittsburgh and Boston's offers were acceptable, so Iginla made the decision that he'd earned the right to make. Anyone who holds that against him or makes up a story about how Iginla secretly promised to give up his right to decide his destination and then went back on that promise has to have been looking for an excuse to blame him. I know it's natural to try to tell yourself that your ex is a bad person when things don't work out, but sometimes it's just time to move on and there is no bad guy.

As for whether or not he made the right decision, obviously he did not, but I'm not sure that his decision would have been the wrong one if Crosby hadn't taken that puck to the face or if Crosby had never returned to the lineup. I guess we'll never know.

It's too late to do anything about it now, but hopefully Iginla choses wisely this summer and gets the Cup next year.

I not reading the rest of this thread, but I just wanted to quote this for truth. This is my take on the whole situation too.

Also a great point about crosbys chicklits and the lack of opportunity to develop chemistry

[FAN]

Let's face it, Iginla wanted to win the Cup and do it by floating around and scoring easy goals. Hence the Penguins were a better fit because the Penguins were looking for a guy who play give and go with Crosby or Malkin and convert their passes, which are things Iginla can do.

Originally Posted by West Karma

If I was Iginla I would have respected the Calgary Flames (AND MY BOSS) and attempted to do what was "best" for the organization! Maybe there is a Hockey God!

Maybe Iginla WAS doing what was best for the team as he saw that Feaster was ####ing up the team by not even getting a guaranteed first round pick for him.

[DeluxeMoustache]

^^ So the prospect of playing with Crosby, with whom he connected in one of the greatest moments in Canadian hockey history, and the best player in the game, plus the raw talent of Malkin, and a team that had put together big win streams this year, vs playing for Boston and Bergeron plus his buddy Ference, boils down to him wanting to coast and be a passenger? There is not only a logical view of likelihood of success, but also an emotional investment. He obviously recognized Boston as good, and it is a coin toss, with personal biases. Reasonable. Nobody saw Pitt being stymied by Boston as they ended up being.

Come on. This place is getting silly.

[stignasty]

“You can spend minutes, hours, days, weeks, or even months over-analyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what could've, would've happened... or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the f@#% on.”- Tupac Shakur

[GGG]

Players worse than Iggy this series
Crosby
Malkin
Neal
Orpik
Fleury

When your entire team scores 2 goals you cant just say 1 player was terrible and only attack their career and legacy unless you do it to all of them.

Prior to the Bruins series Iggy was a point a game player in the playoffs and people were complaining he wasnt good enough. He was just under point a game in the regular season. What more did people expect?

Pittsbugh got worked by an incredible performance by Boston. If you evaluate any of their players performances based on this series non of the penguins would make their olympic teams. This was just 4 games. Iggy is still top 6 on most teams

[Flash Walken]

I don't fault Iggy much for picking Pittsburgh.

It's another sign of utterly inept management that they didn't bother to get his list confirmed in writing as is the standard operating procedure with NTC/NMC clauses.

Once again, they thought they were smarter than everyone else and after a decade of giving Iginla free reign, their last act of free reign with him cost a significant return and public embarrassment.

Just another in a long list of utter failures from management.

They gave Iginla the keys to the castle and hoped he'd let them in. What a stupid decision, but so utterly unsurprising from this group that it wouldn't shock me to see it happen again with another player that ownership 'likes'.

God help us if Sven or this year's top 10 pick shows signs of being a good player and Murray Edwards takes a shine to him.

I blame Iginla for the kind of player he has become, that's all on him. But if you're too stupid to call the league before an offersheet, or to get your pending free agent's list in writing, well, there's not much that can save you. If you're too stupid not to gauge what a player can do for your team at this stage of their career, or if you're too stupid to see what's obviously coming, well, that's not on your star player who you've bent over backwards to accommodate, that's on your bs management skill. Stupid sucks and can be forgiven. This is hubris, though; Arrogance. Arrogance gets what it deserves.

In hindsight Iginla made a bad choice, but he got what he wanted. Calgary has been facilitating this for years. Iginla wants things a certain why, the franchise does their best to make it happen. This trade, the previous history, Tanguay as a boat anchor right now, all these things aren't an issue if the team takes a pragmatic approach to their superstar and doesn't preoccupy itself with running the team the way the star player wants it run.

Had the Flames made it clear they needed his 4 teams in a binding format, and Iginla baulks, this whole ordeal is different, no spurned lovers, none of that. Instead, they once again acquiesce to this guy, helping him make a bad decision.

It's like not re-signing a hockey genius in Brent Sutter in favour of an 'exciting', 'up-tempo' coach in Hartley only to watch it come crashing down around them. Iginla, left to his own devices, will make bad decisions like this. If you let him, he won't change his game to be more effective, he'll still think he's a goal scorer. It's up to management and coaches to say, somewhere along the line, that you're not bigger than the team. It's necessary tough love.

Had Brent gotten through to Iginla about becoming a reliable defensive player, he could've chosen pittsburgh and been a difference maker instead of a liability. Had the organization been less chummy, Brent's message might have gotten through. Instead, it turned out to be a 'him or me' situation and now the franchise has neither.

It really sucks for me watching this Flames team spiral like this as a result of a decade of poor decision making, planning and execution. All the chickens are coming home to roost, and if you think of Tanguay and his contract, they haven't even all arrived yet.

[BurningSteel]

Originally Posted by saillias

By the old gods and the new, Lord Iginla is being punished for breaking his oath to House Bruin.

So? Ill get a new one.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by FAN

Let's face it, Iginla wanted to win the Cup and do it by floating around and scoring easy goals. Hence the Penguins were a better fit because the Penguins were looking for a guy who play give and go with Crosby or Malkin and convert their passes, which are things Iginla can do.


Maybe Iginla WAS doing what was best for the team as he saw that Feaster was ####ing up the team by not even getting a guaranteed first round pick for him.

The first from Boston was guaranteed.

[devo22]

96 "thank you"s for a South Park picture? ... I love this place.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by nik-

The first from Boston was guaranteed.

Again, so Boston said after the fact. Who knows what was said between the two prior to the Pens deal. Maybe Feaster called his bluff, and Boston was trying to save face.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Again, so Boston said after the fact. Who knows what was said between the two prior to the Pens deal. Maybe Feaster called his bluff, and Boston was trying to save face.

Great another consiperacy theory. For once can we take something that was said as fact. There is no reason for Boston to lie about something like that.