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Old 02-14-2014, 12:16 PM   #61
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I wonder if that is still valid for post pubescent males and females. Generally the definition of pedophillia focuses on prepubescent children rather than between sexually mature individuals in power relationships.
Good point and question and I was going to ask that kind of question but forgot. It may still be mostly about power, or it may be somewhere between the kind of stats between the article and a 90/10 power/sexual attraction split, just thought the article was interesting and at least raised the question if it's mostly about power.

I think it's easier to think about it being about power because power is something we can understand while the vast majority of people can't understand attraction to a child so won't want to accept that as an explanation (and again as you say the more mature the child the less clear it would be).
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Good point and question and I was going to ask that kind of question but forgot. It may still be mostly about power, or it may be somewhere between the kind of stats between the article and a 90/10 power/sexual attraction split, just thought the article was interesting and at least raised the question if it's mostly about power.

I think it's easier to think about it being about power because power is something we can understand while the vast majority of people can't understand attraction to a child so won't want to accept that as an explanation (and again as you say the more mature the child the less clear it would be).
Yeah, I agree with you and the article actually.

My answer was probably simplistic, but power relations are a big aspect of sexual attraction, so while I don't think it's a "i am exerting power over you" as we might typically view it, it IS the power of the position that is attractive/makes the fantasy.

I think a similar thing is the man who sleeps with his secretary. The position of power grants the relationship a certain je ne sais quoi.
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I did not have relations with that woman, but know people who did. I have some stories, but this is probably not an appropriate place to put them. I don't really want a libel case or anything...everything I heard was second hand.

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Yeah, I agree with you and the article actually.

My answer was probably simplistic, but power relations are a big aspect of sexual attraction, so while I don't think it's a "i am exerting power over you" as we might typically view it, it IS the power of the position that is attractive/makes the fantasy.

I think a similar thing is the man who sleeps with his secretary. The position of power grants the relationship a certain je ne sais quoi.


And on the end of the fence the vast majority of men who visit dominatrixes are men with a lot of power in their day to day lives be it CEOs , Judges, lawyers...etc. surrendering power and becoming the submissive one.
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Kid must be a legend in the school hallways. High-fives aplenty.

I'll see myself out now.
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Fascinating article, photon.

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His team has found that pedophiles share many physical characteristics. They are shorter, on average, than other men. They are three times more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous. Their IQs are about 10 to 15 points lower. Finally, they are more prone to childhood head injuries — which Cantor chalks up to a natural clumsiness.

These physical characteristics are determined before birth, so the explanation for pedophilia must be in part prenatal, Cantor says.
Pretty wild, but it does make a lot of sense. It would certainly explain why "curing" them isn't really a thing, just as you can't change sexual orientation in straights and gays.
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I did not have relations with that woman, but know people who did. I have some stories, but this is probably not an appropriate place to put them. I don't really want a libel case or anything...everything I heard was second hand.

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Why didn't I meet such teachers when I was 16?
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Is everyone else willing to admit the only reason they click the links for these stories is to see how hot the teacher is?

Also, hands up if you saw the picture and thought 'yeah, she looks like she'd #### her dog'.
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I won't lie, I would have been all over that at 16. Teacher should know better, though.
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I won't lie, I would have been all over that at 16. Teacher should know better, though.
I think any straight 16 yo guy would be the same. Thinking back to when I was 16 and knew everything, I would have argued until I was blue in the face that there was nothing wrong with it.
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I think any straight 16 yo guy would be the same. Thinking back to when I was 16 and knew everything, I would have argued until I was blue in the face that there was nothing wrong with it.
Yeah, 16 is getting there. If she hadnt been his teacher then I think from a legal standpoint this would have been okay?

Morally though, hes half her age and basically a kid.
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:40 PM   #76
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follow-up to the Utah case

Imagine your 16 year old self being with her.








I love that she thought going with the sexy librarian look in court was a good idea. Better yet, she claimed the 16 yo is to blame, as he worked so hard to weaken her defenses she caved in.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-defenses.html
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Did I actually see or read some news that Jennifer Mason had breached her conditions and contacted her former student? Thought I had, but couldn't find anything. Thought it might have been that causing the bump on this thread.

Her career as a teacher is done. Meaningful employment in pretty much any profession seriously impacted.
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Did I actually see or read some news that Jennifer Mason had breached her conditions and contacted her former student? Thought I had, but couldn't find anything. Thought it might have been that causing the bump on this thread.

Her career as a teacher is done. Meaningful employment in pretty much any profession seriously impacted.
To the first part, yes she did. She contacted the boy, which just shows you how utterly ####ed in the head she must be. She's throwing her life away for a 16 year old? Well, I guess so is Dwight Howard but still...

As to the bolded part, there's always porn.
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Imagine your 16 year old self being with her.
What a difference makeup makes, cause here's the mugshot

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^^ 16 year old me would probably still hit that.
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