05-18-2013, 10:22 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
Thanks "Roof Daddy" for the site. After looking it up, i will admit i was wrong. There were not a lot of trades that involved top 3 for the last 10 years, but it did not seem like it would cost nearly as much as i thought.
I'm with you on getting MacKinnon. Flames should offer the #6 and the Blues pick for #2. Hell throw in the 3rd round pick also if need be. Hell take it one step further and offer #6, #22 and 2nd round pick in 2014. Get it done Feaster.
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This trade is a little different than most though, so it's hard to draw a comparison from history. At this point relative to the draft you know the players and it's an exceptional year. You're trading McKinnon for Lindholm/Monahan and the 27th(ish) pick. Seems like a lousy trade for the other guy
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05-18-2013, 10:25 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Wow are there going to be some teams in a lot of trouble this offseason.
Flyers have so many people on the Flyers NHL payroll the Cap geek numbers are skewed (14 forwards and 8 d-men not including Pronger as he will be on LTIR forever I think) Also not including the UFA/RFA's on the list.
Hawks will have 2 million to re-sign a bunch of young players coming off ELC and whatnot.
Actually if you go to Capgeek and look at the top half of the cap board, those teams are going to have to do a lot of shuffling. Theres going to be some Great steals out there for team with a lot of cap flex.
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I did that a while back, but I think the compliance buyouts will likely mean a whole bunch of underachievers are available. The Blackhawks don't have anyone to buyout that I can see, so maybe someone there. Most teams have an easy way out with a buyout or two though. Still, should make for one of the most interesting offseasons in a while. Should be a ton of player movement and changing fortunes around the NHL.
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05-18-2013, 11:28 PM
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#63
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
I did that a while back, but I think the compliance buyouts will likely mean a whole bunch of underachievers are available. The Blackhawks don't have anyone to buyout that I can see, so maybe someone there. Most teams have an easy way out with a buyout or two though. Still, should make for one of the most interesting offseasons in a while. Should be a ton of player movement and changing fortunes around the NHL.
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I've heard Hossa. Only because of his age and the term remaining on his contract. I don't know how much off the top of my head, but a tough pill to swallow.
Most of the available are going to be aging players. Can anybody name somebody under 30 that might even be bought out?
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05-19-2013, 07:18 AM
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#64
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dying4acup
I've heard Hossa. Only because of his age and the term remaining on his contract. I don't know how much off the top of my head, but a tough pill to swallow.
Most of the available are going to be aging players. Can anybody name somebody under 30 that might even be bought out?
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Hossa would go a long way towards shoring up the RW position. Maybe that's not the direction we should be going (ageing vets), but I wouldn't mind having him on the payroll.
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05-19-2013, 08:42 AM
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#65
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Originally Posted by FlameZilla
Hossa would go a long way towards shoring up the RW position. Maybe that's not the direction we should be going (ageing vets), but I wouldn't mind having him on the payroll.
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There are a lot of teams that would love him on the payroll, including the Oilers I'm sure
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05-19-2013, 02:43 PM
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#66
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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Hossa is a good player, but I would not want him at the tea the hawks have him for. If the flames were a better team I'd offer him a shorter term contract. 3 yrs maybe?
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05-19-2013, 02:52 PM
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#67
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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No way the Hawks buy out Hossa. He's still one of their best players.
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05-20-2013, 08:45 AM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I'm looking thru the list of up oming UFAs, looking to see if there are any players that could help he Flames in their current direction, while also being likely to sign (as opposed to players like Horton who are likely to have many suitors and will sign with a contending team).
A few names jumped out at me. The first being Latendresse from OTT...he has yet to pan out according to his potential, but he is only 25 yrs old...perhaps a 'Comeau' type move that could potentially pay off???
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05-20-2013, 08:47 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Next, Ben Lovejoy could really help shore up the back end next season. He could play Top 4 in CGY, I believe... He is 29 though and not o the upswing, per se, but has been an improved player in he past 2 seasons.
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05-20-2013, 08:48 AM
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#70
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
Next, Ben Lovejoy could really help shore up the back end next season. He could play Top 4 in CGY, I believe... He is 29 though and not o the upswing, per se, but has been an improved player in he past 2 seasons.
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I bet Glencross would just love that.
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05-20-2013, 08:50 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Lastly, I thought Adam Cracknell would help on RW...he's shown to have a great work ethic and would be a good guy to have around while younger players develop.
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05-20-2013, 09:55 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
I'm looking thru the list of up oming UFAs, looking to see if there are any players that could help he Flames in their current direction, while also being likely to sign (as opposed to players like Horton who are likely to have many suitors and will sign with a contending team).
A few names jumped out at me. The first being Latendresse from OTT...he has yet to pan out according to his potential, but he is only 25 yrs old...perhaps a 'Comeau' type move that could potentially pay off???
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What contending teams have cap room to add Horton for any more than 5M / Yr?
Here is the link to the space available to fill in the roster spots availabe to stay at the cap.
Keep in mind that top end EL guys like Baertschi take a 1.4M cap hit. If Jones plays for the Avs, Mackinnnon for florida their cap hit will be 3.8M. If Morgan Rielly suits up for the Leafs - 1.8M cap hit
The only contending team that has cap space to take on a 5M+ contract is Ottawa.
Detroit might but if they go after Horton for instance they would have to let Fippula and Cleary walk.
Maybe Horton or Clarkson or Iginla as the best UFAs available might be able to pry out a big contract.... BUT chances are small.... their options will be limited and If Ottawa, the Avs and the the Flames give them a pass then a team would have to take some drastic action to create cap space for them...... trading Regehr and a second for Butler drastic.
Does Horton or Clarkson have the sizzle of Brad Richards 2011? Does Iginla?
The Flames are in a position to add 4 players at 4,.6 M / player .... I am pretty sure that all the agents representing the UFA's will be giving Feaster a call looking to cash in on the very limited jackpot space available.
Last edited by ricardodw; 05-20-2013 at 10:01 AM.
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05-20-2013, 10:25 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
What contending teams have cap room to add Horton for any more than 5M / Yr?
Here is the link to the space available to fill in the roster spots availabe to stay at the cap.
Keep in mind that top end EL guys like Baertschi take a 1.4M cap hit. If Jones plays for the Avs, Mackinnnon for florida their cap hit will be 3.8M. If Morgan Rielly suits up for the Leafs - 1.8M cap hit
The only contending team that has cap space to take on a 5M+ contract is Ottawa.
Detroit might but if they go after Horton for instance they would have to let Fippula and Cleary walk.
Maybe Horton or Clarkson or Iginla as the best UFAs available might be able to pry out a big contract.... BUT chances are small.... their options will be limited and If Ottawa, the Avs and the the Flames give them a pass then a team would have to take some drastic action to create cap space for them...... trading Regehr and a second for Butler drastic.
Does Horton or Clarkson have the sizzle of Brad Richards 2011? Does Iginla?
The Flames are in a position to add 4 players at 4,.6 M / player .... I am pretty sure that all the agents representing the UFA's will be giving Feaster a call looking to cash in on the very limited jackpot space available.
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There might not be cup contending teams that can give money to Horton or Clarkson, but there are teams that will be in way better position than Calgary to make the playoffs that can afford them.
Plus would a Horton really want to come into Calgary with a big contract , and be looked at through media and fans as a somewhat replacement for Iggy?
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05-20-2013, 10:30 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Detroit might but if they go after Horton for instance they would have to let Fippula and Cleary walk.
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Detroit has the space to do all 3. I think they let Filppula walk anyhow.
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05-20-2013, 10:38 AM
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#75
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First Line Centre
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Does anyone think Colby Armstrong would make a good signing as a bottom 6 RW?
Bit of a reclamation project, but he could probably be had for $1,000,000 or less...
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