2013 Draft: Who is going to drop?

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I'd be thrilled if we somehow managed to get Lindholm and Wennberg with our top two picks.

The classic all-Swedish centre ice lineup...

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

Do you just copy/paste every reply? I don't think I've seen one where you're not talking about size being the be all and end all of every team.

have you seen any playoff games at all... or does your interest turn to golf when the Flames start golfing?

The Big physical teams make the playoffs.... and the bigger meaner teams win the playoffs.

A lot of people on CP seems not to understand or are embarrassed by the Flames success under Sutter ... it just wasn't artistic enough. They want some mythical magical talented swift skating skilled team that have all their own teeth and no scars that beats the bullies with guile and wit. Since Feaster took over he has replaced any and all grit with talent... and the Flames had the worst season in franchise history.

It is a redundant experiment..... Edmonton has tried it and shown the results.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

have you seen any playoff games at all... or does your interest turn to golf when the Flames start golfing?

The Big physical teams make the playoffs.... and the bigger meaner teams win the playoffs.

A lot of people on CP seems not to understand or are embarrassed by the Flames success under Sutter ... it just wasn't artistic enough. They want some mythical magical talented swift skating skilled team that have all their own teeth and no scars that beats the bullies with guile and wit. Since Feaster took over he has replaced any and all grit with talent... and the Flames had the worst season in franchise history.

It is a redundant experiment..... Edmonton has tried it and shown the results.

I agree that we could use some balance of size & skill in our lineup. Picking guys who are huge doesn't necessarily mean they play huge. Hagg & Mantha, for example, are big boys but they apparently shy away from physical play. That's a big red flag for me.

I don't care how big they are as long as they play big.

[Caged Great]

For me my criteria for drafting is

1. Skill
2. Size
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3. Position

If you have two more or less equivalent prospects skill wise when you're picking, take the bigger player. However, if you have the choice of a 6-5 plug type that might be lucky to be a 3rd/4th liner if the stars align just the right way vs a 5-7 to 5-9 John Gaudreau - Jean Gabriel Pageau type who have all the skill in the world but are vertically challenged, then take the small guy.

Worst case scenario is that the small skilled guy can be included in a trade if necessary later on.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

For me my criteria for drafting is

1. Skill
2. Size
.
.
.
.
3. Position

If you have two more or less equivalent prospects skill wise when you're picking, take the bigger player. However, if you have the choice of a 6-5 plug type that might be lucky to be a 3rd/4th liner if the stars align just the right way vs a 5-7 to 5-9 John Gaudreau - Jean Gabriel Pageau type who have all the skill in the world but are vertically challenged, then take the small guy.

Worst case scenario is that the small skilled guy can be included in a trade if necessary later on.

We have such a huge logjam at LW now which would make me hesitate to pick more LWers. Mostly small, skilled LWs as well. However, I suppose the players from this draft aren't likely to make an impact for a couple of years so our current depth chart shouldn't dictate our draft strategy all that much.

The blatant example I can think of is Drouin somehow falling to 6th. It would be stupid not to take him. It really does have to be BPA for the Flames. We should be planning for 5 years down the road.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

We have such a huge logjam at LW now which would make me hesitate to pick more LWers. Mostly small, skilled LWs as well. However, I suppose the players from this draft aren't likely to make an impact for a couple of years so our current depth chart shouldn't dictate our draft strategy all that much.

The blatant example I can think of is Drouin somehow falling to 6th. It would be stupid not to take him. It really does have to be BPA for the Flames. We should be planning for 5 years down the road.

I wouldn't really worry about the current log jam. We can always move an NHL LW for an equivalent player in another position (or move them to RW) sort of like the Langkow for Stempniak trade.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I wouldn't really worry about the current log jam. We can always move an NHL LW for an equivalent player in another position (or move them to RW) sort of like the Langkow for Stempniak trade.

The worry for me isn't so much the current logjam, but also that most of our best prospects are LWers. I'm not such a huge fan of playing guys on their off-wing, unless that's where they're totally comfortable playing. Although we tended to play guys out of position this season, if you look at successful teams they have natural-sided wingers playing in position. The off-wing guys are usually high-impact offence players like Ovechkin.

In a few years, if all goes according to plan, Baertschi & Gaudreau will be competing for top 6 roles. Hudler is on the books for ages so unless his contract (which isn't very movable) is moved out he'll be there too. I imagine Glenncross will be here. Horak, Agostino, Hanowski, Bouma & Ferland competing for bottom 6 roles.

My great hope is that we pick up some solid right-sided players. Mackinnon, Lindholm, Compher & Zykov are the only first rounders I've seen listed as right-shooters. Let's hope some of them drop... right into our lineup.

[Caged Great]

I'm kind of writing off everyone over Backlund's age in terms of who's going to be here once we're good again. All of them will be too old in 3-4 years, which is when we'll start being good again.

[Erick Estrada]

-Nichushkin because of the Russian factor
-Barkov because his skating isn't that great
-Nurse because he's overrated by many scouts but not necessarily sharp teams scouts
-Pulock because his big shot clouds the fact that he's pretty average

[FanningTheFlames]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Knowing the Flames, they will be the cause of one player dropping as they pick someone completely off the board at #6 (a college kid no doubt). Cue Feaster saying in the interview "We think we snagged a real gem here who will end up being the best player in this draft"

Exactly the type of comment you would expect to see on HFBoards.