"Flames GM Feaster Has Options Open Heading Into Off-Season" As per TSN

[bucksmasher]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Feaster should really just shut up about the Oilers. It just looks unprofessional and it also smacks of deflection of criticism in that "hey at least we aren't as bad as those other guys."

First press conference as GM he's taking shots at them while saying Flames will make the playoffs. Feaster is one that looks bad in that exchange.

Let the Oilers dig their own grave. Feaster's eye pokes do nothing but make the organization look bad especially as he has presided over a similar amount of failure.

couldn't agree more, hey where did we get Glencross from again?

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

haha I honestly don't hate Feaster, in fact I'm pretty indifferent overall to him. And I certainly wouldn't hate him over something like this, I just think it's arrogant, unnecessary and unbecoming of a GM.

There's no reason for it and it serves no purpose, and like I said take care of your own backyard before pissing in others (if you feel the need to) is sort of my point. He just needs to worry about his job and that's not playing critic of the Oilers.

I just think he sounds like he's taking the Kevin Lowe route in criticizing other orgs, which is never a good thing.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

What if the difference was more like Sakic to say Brad Richards, Henrik Sedin or Getzlaf?

I get the feeling that the spread probably resembles something more like that.

There is no "Crosby" in this draft.

The consensus is(and I might be wrong) that the difference from McKinnon to lindholm/monahan is franchise center to number 1 center.

I ask then if the weakest franchise center, arguable maybe Toews or Stamkos, and the best the best top line center not considered a franchise player, (maybe Thornton or Spezza or Sedin or Getzlaff?) is big enough to to take that chance.


The draft is still a crap shoot. But my guess is even if McKinnon fails to be a franchise player, he is likely as good as or better than any player in group 2(top-line, non-franchise centers).

That's why I mortgage the farm to get to #2. If lindholm and monahan fail to live up to expectations, they are 3rd liners. If McKinnon doesn't live up to expectations he is a 2nd liner at worst. Best case for lindholm/monahan is almost but not quite worst case for McKinnon. Assuming that 30 GMs are not buying into the next Alexandre Daigle.

I don't know if that makes any sense....

[Rifleman]

I think what we might see from Feaster is them trading one of their firsts (not #6) for an already established player in that 25 to 29 year old age group. He mentioned in one of those press conferences that the organization was content with the 30+ age group and happy with the youngsters, but didn't really have anyone in that middle group. Perhaps an RFA star who is looking for a big raise and can't be afforded by the other team could be targeted by the Flames -assuming they can sign him. Money won't be an issue this offseason with several cap hits coming off the books already.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Asking why is not telling you how to cheer for a team. Just curious as to why a fan would make such sharp jabs at one person for something like making a joke at the expense of a rival.

Because it is unprofessional and makes him look like an ignorant moron when he takes shots at teams given his team's particular situation. Say what anyone will about Sutter but the man didn't constantly start childish pissing matches with other organization, I expect more professionalism from the man in charge of our on ice product.

[St. Pats]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Feaster should really just shut up about the Oilers. It just looks unprofessional and it also smacks of deflection of criticism in that "hey at least we aren't as bad as those other guys."

First press conference as GM he's taking shots at them while saying Flames will make the playoffs. Feaster is one that looks bad in that exchange.

Let the Oilers dig their own grave. Feaster's eye pokes do nothing but make the organization look bad especially as he has presided over a similar amount of failure.

I'd fix your post by changing it to Feaster should really just shut up. He wouldn't seem like such an ignoramus if he would just keep his mouth shut. Trot Weisbrod out to talk to the media. Perhaps he can do it and appear intelligent and classy.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Rifleman

I think what we might see from Feaster is them trading one of their firsts (not #6) for an already established player in that 25 to 29 year old age group. He mentioned in one of those press conferences that the organization was content with the 30+ age group and happy with the youngsters, but didn't really have anyone in that middle group. Perhaps an RFA star who is looking for a big raise and can't be afforded by the other team could be targeted by the Flames -assuming they can sign him. Money won't be an issue this offseason with several cap hits coming off the books already.

I could see Feaster doing this, as it seems like a silly move. Why trade a pick for a player that is, by this description, entering ther prime? Calgary doesn't and won't have the personnel for a move like this for three years probably. I mean a surrounding cast...

IMO, this a a good description of what the oilers ought todo, but not Calgary

[edslunch]

I think there may well be opportunities for a skilled GM to take advantage of other teams using salary cap and even picks to pluck some good young established players. I just don't trust Feaster to be that GM. None of his trades to date are clear wins or anything more than just ok.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I don't. It is a clear indication of the lack of professionalism that he shows.
.

Exactly. As fans, should we mock the Oilers at every opportunity? Absolutely. But when NHL executives take shots at each other, it just looks bush league and unprofessional. The Battle of Alberta was at its fiercest when my namesake was the GM of the Flames. We're talking blazing hatred, bench-clearing brawls, two cities captivated every time the teams played one another like it was game 7 of the Cup finals. There was genuine hatred between the two teams, and genuine rivalry between two of the best teams in the NHL. But Fletcher never badmouthed the Oilers in public - he let the Flames' players do our organization's talking on the ice.

However, Cliff Fletcher was a widely admired GM who knew he had a long career in the NHL ahead of him. I'm not a Feaster hater, but the guy must know this is likely his last NHL management job. So I suppose he can act as unprofessionally as he likes.

[DuffMan]

Just so I have this straight, You're all upset he said this...

"We want to do it sooner rather than later," he said. "This isn't about let's see if we can finish last for the next three years and have the first pick overall. That's not the direction we want to go."

?

So he's saying he wants to be competitive right away, and you all get upset?


Wow.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Just so I have this straight, You're all upset he said this...



?

So he's saying he wants to be competitive right away, and you all get upset?


Wow.

The Oilers didn't want to finish near the bottom 3 years in a row. They lost because they have incompetent management - not by design. Unfortunately the Flames management is pretty incompetent themselves so I'd say Feaster should be watching his words carefully before he looks like a fool for not building a team that can back them up (again).

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Exactly. As fans, should we mock the Oilers at every opportunity? Absolutely. But when NHL executives take shots at each other, it just looks bush league and unprofessional. The Battle of Alberta was at its fiercest when my namesake was the GM of the Flames. We're talking blazing hatred, bench-clearing brawls, two cities captivated every time the teams played one another like it was game 7 of the Cup finals. But Fletcher never badmouthed the Oilers in public - he let the Flames' players do our organization's talking on the ice.

However, Cliff Fletcher was a widely admired GM who knew he had a long career in the NHL ahead of him. I'm not a Feaster hater, but the guy must know this is likely his last NHL management job. So I suppose he can act as unprofessionally as he likes.

The bolded part is another reason he should not take shots at the Oilers. If Feaster is let go there are only 2 organizations that would take an incompetent GM into their staff. They are the Oilers and Islanders.

Also as others have said, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

I will give Feaster credit that he knows he can use "shots on Oilers" as a way to get back fan support for him.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by JayP

The Oilers didn't want to finish near the bottom 3 years in a row. They lost because they have incompetent management - not by design. Unfortunately the Flames management is pretty incompetent themselves so I'd say Feaster should be watching his words carefully before he looks like a fool for not building a team that can back them up (again).

It just firms up the impression that the only point of pride, the only strategy of this franchise, is to be not as lousy as the Oilers. And that's pathetic. It's like Rutherford of the Hurricanes puffing up his chest and declaring - "hey, at least we're not as bad as those losers in Florida." Sorry, you're both losers. As are the Flames and Oilers.

[moon]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Just so I have this straight, You're all upset he said this...



?

So he's saying he wants to be competitive right away, and you all get upset?


Wow.

Combined with the comments he made in the off-season yes.

On their own? Probably not.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by JayP

The Oilers didn't want to finish near the bottom 3 years in a row. They lost because they have incompetent management - not by design. Unfortunately the Flames management is pretty incompetent themselves so I'd say Feaster should be watching his words carefully before he looks like a fool for not building a team that can back them up (again).

Disagree. The oilers went into at least 2 seasons trying to lose.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It just firms up the impression that the only point of pride, the only strategy of this franchise, is to be not as lousy as the Oilers. And that's pathetic. It's like Rutherford of the Hurricanes puffing up his chest and declaring - "hey, at least we're not as bad as those losers in Florida." Sorry, you're both losers. As are the Flames and Oilers.

I posted something like this days ago. I hate the Oilers, but i wish they had hired Nill. Maybe that would have had the flames owernship wake up. No chance they would want the Oilers to have a more competent management team.

I think the hiring of Mac was a mistake, but as long as he is smarter than the retired monkey from TSN, they should be able to get back into the playoffs next year or damm close. Long term i am not sold he can bring a cup back to Edmonton. Which is fine by me.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Disagree. The oilers went into at least 2 seasons trying to lose.

No they didn't. Tambellini stated going into the last 2 seasons that he thought they would be able to take the next step to being a playoff team. He was just a horrible GM that could not assemble a playoff team with good prospects and picks to trade.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I posted something like this days ago. I hate the Oilers, but i wish they had hired Nill. Maybe that would have had the flames owernship wake up. No chance they would want the Oilers to have a more competent management team.

I think the hiring of Mac was a mistake, but as long as he is smarter than the retired monkey from TSN, they should be able to get back into the playoffs next year or damm close. Long term i am not sold he can bring a cup back to Edmonton. Which is fine by me.

No, I think its awesome they keep on sucking. And it wouldn't wake them up, I think Flames owners/president both think they have competant management.

One of the forever bottom feeders, NYI, are in the playoffs now though. And I guess Edmonton did finish ahead of us in the standings.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

No they didn't. Tambellini stated going into the last 2 seasons that he thought they would be able to take the next step to being a playoff team. He was just a horrible GM that could not assemble a playoff team with good prospects and picks to trade.

If the flames start next year with the same ahl roster they ended this year with, I would argue they have no intention of winning, and are hoping to lose.

That's pretty much what the oilers did for at least 2 years, arguably 3.

To me that's losing on purpose. They made no moves to get better.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Because it is unprofessional and makes him look like an ignorant moron when he takes shots at teams given his team's particular situation. Say what anyone will about Sutter but the man didn't constantly start childish pissing matches with other organization, I expect more professionalism from the man in charge of our on ice product.

Methinks you're making something out of nothing. He didn't say anything unprofessional or ignorant. He didn't start a childish pissing match.

Talk about being overdramatic.