So...when are we going to start labelling our menu's?

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by blankall

Boston Pizza would be included in the "sit down" portion of restaurants. It's certainly not fast food. Small mom and pop shops don't tend to any better than places like Boston Pizza.

I think his point was the emphasis thus far has only been on true "fast food" places.

I bet if you knew how many calories were in a treadmill you would have eaten only 30 or so.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

Personally, if people were serious and committed in their goal to lose weight and improve their quality of life... avoiding fast food restaurants should be at the top of their list, not finding 'healthy' alternatives in these restaurants. It takes less than 5 minutes to prepare a healthy sandwich or salad from home you can take with you... so I don't think it's a 'luxury' but rather laziness.

I disagree. While being healthy is important to me, so is enjoying food every once and a while. Most people I know hate the process of weight loss and just sit around eating their quinoa and imagining it was anything else. I prefer to take things a little slower and have an awesome meal every once and a while, and sometimes part of the enjoyment is eating something you really shouldn't. I love going to Wendy's, but that doesn't mean I go full baconator combo. If someone is watching their calories and looks at the nutritional info, it's quite clear that there are paths you can take that won't end with you hammering back 1500 calories in a single sitting.

I should stress that eating and weight isn't something I struggle with. I'm able to eat something terrible for me and not have it spiral out of control. Some people unfortunately don't have that luxury, so my opinions of course aren't for everybody.

[Devils'Advocate]

Okay, I re-watched the video that I referred to a page back:
http://ww3.tvo.org/video/179581/kell...-our-willpower

It's at 4:45

It WASN'T that putting calories on the menu caused people to make poorer food choices, but rather putting more healthy food choices on the menu caused people to make poorer food choices. My bad.

[Azure]

I still think if you go into Mickey D's and think you can eat healthy, there is something very wrong. Chances are just down the road there is a Subway where you can get a flat bread 6'' sub with a bottle of water for a similar price and its a lot healthier.

[Zarley]

I don't think this is necessary. Are people no longer to be held accountable for educating themselves about making healthy eating choices?

It should be obvious to anyone that a typical meal you get from a chain like BP's is going to be loaded with salt, and meal from a fast food joint even worse.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Zarley

I don't think this is necessary. Are people no longer to be held accountable for educating themselves about making healthy eating choices?

It should be obvious to anyone that a typical meal you get from a chain like BP's is going to be loaded with salt, and meal from a fast food joint even worse.

I think the bolded part is a big misconception that needs to be corrected. Sit down restaurants arent better than fast food.

A big mac meal comes to 1350 calories including fries and pop

Before adding pop many of the BPs meals are over 1000 calories. Add in 160 cals per glass for pop and generally you are over the mcdonalds figure.

[Azure]

Except it is entirely possible to order something half decently healthy at a sit down joint.

https://order.bostonpizza.com/EN#con...7-86dc58b79f9c

NY Steak and Veggies.

Sodium: 280 mg, Protein: 44 g, Calories: 410, Saturated fat: 7.6 g, Total fat: 19 g

Drink water and don't take fries. Pretty easy to stay around 500 calories.

There are a few meals like that where you can stay under 750 calories while still eating a decent sized plate. Even the bigger plates like a full rack of ribs come in around 1,000 calories, which isn't insane considering they don't have that many high GI carbs, and you can forgo the ribs as well and drink water along with vegetables as the side dish.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Azure

Except it is entirely possible to order something half decently healthy at a sit down joint.

https://order.bostonpizza.com/EN#con...7-86dc58b79f9c

NY Steak and Veggies.



Drink water and don't take fries. Pretty easy to stay around 500 calories.

There are a few meals like that where you can stay under 750 calories while still eating a decent sized plate. Even the bigger plates like a full rack of ribs come in around 1,000 calories, which isn't insane considering they don't have that many high GI carbs, and you can forgo the ribs as well and drink water along with vegetables as the side dish.

Who goes to BPs for steak or ribs?? You go for pizza and pasta and thats where the calories start coming in. At least at mcdonalds you can find the nutrtional info easily before you order and not have to ask for the allergy binder.

Also at Mcdonalds you can eat a full meal and stay under 750 cals easy doing the same thing you did above. Order the south west grilled chicken for 460 cals and a side garden salad with balsamic vinigrette for 150 and you are at 610 cals for the meal for a decent lunch.

Sit down Restaurants are just as bad as fast food and they have far worse nutritional information.

[Azure]

The point is that if you are really concerned about eating healthy and have no choice but to eat 'out' numerous times per week, it is entirely possible to still eat healthy.

Yes, it would be nice if the nutritional info was on the menus, but it literally takes about 2 min to look up BP or any other joint on the internet and find out what you can take that is healthy enough.

[ranchlandsselling]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

Personally, if people were serious and committed in their goal to lose weight and improve their quality of life... avoiding fast food restaurants should be at the top of their list, not finding 'healthy' alternatives in these restaurants. It takes less than 5 minutes to prepare a healthy sandwich or salad from home you can take with you... so I don't think it's a 'luxury' but rather laziness.

That's bull and a cop out on the discussion.

I travel a lot for work. I'm often eating on the road. Last trip I had enough of Subway, pita pit, wraps etc. and trying to find a decent sandwich shop in an unknown town is tough. So I figured I'd go to BPs. I once had a decent salad there and figured I'd order the same thing. Pecan something or other.

Order my salad with chicken. Comes dripping in dressing (like coleslaw thick), salty breaded chicken, that's 85% bread, 15% meat, orange fake looking bacon bits, candied nuts (wtf), a ton of shredded cheese, I can't remember what else... But nothing like what the menu sounded like.
1150 calories, 93 g fat (are you fracking kidding me?), 1550 mg sodium.

Here's the description.
Breaded chicken breast fillet, toasted pecans, pizza mozzarella, cheddar, smoky bacon, chopped egg, julienne carrots and diced tomato over fresh garden greens tossed in ranch dressing.

In reality if I had been really really thinking about it I guess I could have assumed the worst from the description and not ordered it. But I had a pecan chicken salad there about 5-6 years ago and it was delicious. But I was working at the time had 1,000 things going on, fiddling with my GPS, answering emails, and reviewing documents. That said, had I known the actual health information I would have ordered a god damn burger and fries been happier, more full and apparently more healthy.

"breaded chicken breast fillet" blow me! More like Deep fried, battered, salty, piece of congealed crumbs with a shred of chicken injected in the middle.

It's too much salt, oils, etc vs. the actual ingredients.