04-22-2013, 11:30 PM
|
#61
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by First Lady
|
God you're daft.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to cam_wmh For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-22-2013, 11:32 PM
|
#62
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
God you're daft.
|
Next time I'll use green text for you.
|
|
|
04-22-2013, 11:33 PM
|
#63
|
Franchise Player
|
The Mayor doesn't have a singular agenda. He has ideas on a large variety of issues on which the City deals with. He put forth several dozen ideas through 12 policy themes in his last election platform. He's been successful in completing or moving substantially on 11 of those 12 themes (the last remaining glaring one being campaign finance reform - but this is currently a Provincial decision).
The Mayor has a bully pulpit by way of having the title and being elected by the city as a whole. Nonetheless, we have a so-callled "weak Mayor" system and thus he must use the power of his persuasion to convince others to support his ideas.
On really important issues related to growth and development (such as the Growth Management Framework - to more logically sequence growth based on financial efficiency - one can say part of the Mayor's "agenda") Council has moved forward with a relatively high degree of unanimity actually.
__________________
Trust the snake.
Last edited by Bunk; 04-23-2013 at 12:35 AM.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bunk For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-22-2013, 11:38 PM
|
#64
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by First Lady
Next time I'll use green text for you.
|
Saw right through your "shh".
So.
Shh.
|
|
|
04-22-2013, 11:39 PM
|
#65
|
tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
On really important issues related to growth and development (such as the Growth Management Framework - to more logically sequence growth based on financial efficiency - one can say part of the Mayor's "agenda") Council has moved forward with a relatively high degree of unanimity actually.
|
And yet, with regards to the standard development agreement (that sets the development fees), Nenshi voted against council on the grounds that they did not increase the fees (i.e. reduce the subsidies) enough.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to SebC For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-22-2013, 11:43 PM
|
#66
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Seriously, why not? At the federal and provincial levels, I may not know the candidates by name, but at least in a general sense I know where they stand on most issues by party affiliation.
|
I think that's exactly what people object to. Party politics stiffles independent thinking and actual problem solving. In party politics, elected representatives automatically oppose certain policies simply by virtue of it being from the opposition party rather than on its merits.
Ideology and partisanship blinds.
The beauty of independent members of Council, and particularly of this Council is that although you often get vigorous disagreement on issues and 8-7 or 9-6 votes, it's rarely the same 8 and the same 7. You get people on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum co-sponsoring motions because they agree it's the right solution (Today for instance, Druh Farrell and Shane Keating co-sponsored a Notice of Motion of Air Conditioning noise). One of the criticisms of the last Council is that it started to look a lot more like party politics. Lots of 8-7 votes, but almost always the same block of 8 and the same block of 7 based on ideology.
__________________
Trust the snake.
|
|
|
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Bunk For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-22-2013, 11:49 PM
|
#67
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
And yet, with regards to the standard development agreement (that sets the development fees), Nenshi voted against council on the grounds that they did not increase the fees (i.e. reduce the subsidies) enough.
|
That's true. Council as a whole generally agreed to the principle that the acreage assessment should be higher to pay for a greater proportion of growth costs, but there was disagreement on how much it should increase at that time.
__________________
Trust the snake.
|
|
|
04-22-2013, 11:51 PM
|
#68
|
Voted for Kodos
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Seriously, why not? At the federal and provincial levels, I may not know the candidates by name, but at least in a general sense I know where they stand on most issues by party affiliation.
|
You just answered the question.
Furthermore, I wish partys were banned from provincial and federal governments.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to You Need a Thneed For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-23-2013, 12:49 AM
|
#70
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Pardon my french but #### you Shane Homes. Never buying a home from you #######s.
|
Lol nobody should have bought a home from Shane homes before this video was released.
Absolute garbage company that got ahead by tactics used in this video. The worst quality you can get is from Shane homes.
|
|
|
04-23-2013, 06:30 AM
|
#71
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
The Mayor doesn't have a singular agenda. He has ideas on a large variety of issues on which the City deals with. He put forth several dozen ideas through 12 policy themes in his last election platform. He's been successful in completing or moving substantially on 11 of those 12 themes (the last remaining glaring one being campaign finance reform - but this is currently a Provincial decision).
The Mayor has a bully pulpit by way of having the title and being elected by the city as a whole. Nonetheless, we have a so-callled "weak Mayor" system and thus he must use the power of his persuasion to convince others to support his ideas.
On really important issues related to growth and development (such as the Growth Management Framework - to more logically sequence growth based on financial efficiency - one can say part of the Mayor's "agenda") Council has moved forward with a relatively high degree of unanimity actually.
|
I thanked you, mostly for the use of 'bully pulpit' which is not only way under-utilized but perhaps the throwback of all throwbacks!
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Slava For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-23-2013, 07:02 AM
|
#72
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Seriously, why not? At the federal and provincial levels, I may not know the candidates by name, but at least in a general sense I know where they stand on most issues by party affiliation.
|
Researching the Mayoral and Councillor candidates in my ward is hard, please federal and provincial parties come to the municipal level so I can just blindly vote away.
|
|
|
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to Bigtime For This Useful Post:
|
c.t.ner,
corporatejay,
Jimmy Stang,
longsuffering,
Mazrim,
MrMastodonFarm,
rubecube,
Slava,
surferguy,
topfiverecords,
You Need a Thneed
|
04-23-2013, 07:27 AM
|
#73
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Seriously, why not? At the federal and provincial levels, I may not know the candidates by name, but at least in a general sense I know where they stand on most issues by party affiliation.
|
Is that what we want? Faceless candidates we can project an entire party's platform onto? What happened to, I don't know, doing what your constituents want, you know, the whole ####ing point of elected representation?
__________________
"Think I'm gonna be the scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeee......."
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Senator Clay Davis For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-23-2013, 07:39 AM
|
#74
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oshawa
|
Montreal has political parties for its municipal government, and its renowned for being a corrupt disaster.
I hate political parties at the provincial and federal levels. Seeing that kind of petty partisan politics at the municipal level would be a travesty.
__________________
Quote:
Somewhere Leon Trotsky is an Oilers fan, because who better demonstrates his philosophy of the permanent revolution?
|
|
|
|
04-23-2013, 07:45 AM
|
#75
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Seriously, why not? At the federal and provincial levels, I may not know the candidates by name, but at least in a general sense I know where they stand on most issues by party affiliation.
|
So basically, you want to be able to vote for a bunch of yes-men just because you're too lazy to take 10 minutes out of your day to do a little research before an election?
|
|
|
The Following 15 Users Say Thank You to Table 5 For This Useful Post:
|
Art Vandelay,
Boblobla,
corporatejay,
Coys1882,
jayswin,
Jimmy Stang,
MrMastodonFarm,
OffsideSpecialist,
Regulator75,
rubecube,
Senator Clay Davis,
surferguy,
Tyler,
woob,
You Need a Thneed
|
04-23-2013, 07:52 AM
|
#76
|
Monster Storm
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Seriously, why not? At the federal and provincial levels, I may not know the candidates by name, but at least in a general sense I know where they stand on most issues by party affiliation.
|
Then you are lazy and are voting blindly. The idea of knowing your candidates makes you an educated voter. That is your job when you head to the polls, know your candidates and where they stand. If you end up just towing the party line on a vote because of their political color you end up with idiots like Rob Anders with a job.
__________________
Shameless self promotion
Last edited by surferguy; 04-23-2013 at 07:58 AM.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to surferguy For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-23-2013, 08:22 AM
|
#77
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
|
Let's see what DCU is tweeting about this morning shall we?
Quote:
The province is not taking $50M of your property taxes. Council wants to know your priorities. Give back? Police? Transit? Pay debt? Roads?
|
Quote:
All your property taxes should stay in Calgary. Province takes half of it for education throughout the province.
|
Quote:
Praise to the province for announcing Senior's Tax Deferral Program so seniors can stay in their homes longer.
|
It's like she is almost trying to distract us from something...
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Bigtime For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-23-2013, 08:28 AM
|
#78
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Seriously, why not? At the federal and provincial levels, I may not know the candidates by name, but at least in a general sense I know where they stand on most issues by party affiliation.
|
"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
-Bill Clinton
__________________
"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Bobblehead For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-23-2013, 08:31 AM
|
#79
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime
Let's see what DCU is tweeting about this morning shall we?
It's like she is almost trying to distract us from something...
|
The fact that she tweets at all is a minor miracle. Easily the worst alderman of the bunch. I say that based entirely on personal bias and anecdotal evidence though, because I know there are a few competitors!
|
|
|
04-23-2013, 08:32 AM
|
#80
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTrain
The developers aren't to blame here because, from what I understand, they're not doing anything illegal.
It's the Aldermen who are voting because their wallets are fuller that are to blame. They need to be called out about this so voters can make some changes.
|
I don't disagree, although I doubt you will find many people in the city that see Wenzal's behaviour as acceptable. Home developers in this city are greasy, plain and simple.
This sort of reporting outs the alderman and developers. It's great.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:13 PM.
|
|