Margaret Thatcher Dies

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by jeffman

wtf

wtf what? You got a point you want to make?

She died with a lot of blood on her hands and not everyone is in mourning. Not even close.

The death of Margaret Thatcher provoked both sombre tributes and undisguised glee in South Africa, a country where she found herself on the wrong side of history.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...thatcher-death

[Cowperson]

Five myths about Margaret Thatcher in the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z3

Cowperson

[kirant]

Originally Posted by jeffman

wtf

People have strong emotions on the subject. Thatcher is a polarizing figure because of her actions. They can be interpreted as a necessary evil or playing villain when one was needed in a bit of a mess of a government or, as Locke put it, her being and "evil soulless harpy".

Being behind a curtain of anonymity on the internet just intensifies your wording one way or the other as it lets you feel as if you can get away with more (See the oft quoted Greater Internet F***wad Theory).

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Don't let Captain and NBC speak for you - elaborate. You can't just call people clueless and have it at that.

Elaborate on what? Why the Clueless Club spews vitriol? Your guess is as good as mine, I'm no psychologist.

[Hatter]

A polarizing figure. RIP.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Elaborate on what? Why the Clueless Club spews vitriol? Your guess is as good as mine, I'm no psychologist.

Thatcher was no stranger to vitriol.

[Nyah]

Londoners take to the streets to share their condolences:

NSFW!

[Imported_Aussie]

If people want to see more of the reality of Thatcher and what the results of her policies were to many people in Great Britain, swing over to the Guardian...
For a start, it is probably one of the most reputable media sources, and secondly, they editorials/articles aren't afraid to criticize her, and they also do in it such a way that you could hardly call "vitriolic"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...cher-editorial

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...eath-etiquette

[Reaper]

I was tempted to go see Billy Bragg last night just to see what he would say about her during the show.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Reaper

I was tempted to go see Billy Bragg last night just to see what he would say about her during the show.

Oh, Morrissey!

Morrissey Attacks 'Barbaric' Former PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...?utm_hp_ref=uk

"Thatcher is remembered as The Iron Lady only because she possessed completely negative traits such as persistent stubbornness and a determined refusal to listen to others.

"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the Ivory Trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own Cabinet booted her out."

"She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women's movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.

Outspoken Morrissey, who recently cancelled a series of shows due to ill health, went on: "Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death.

"As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity," he added.


Billy Bragg offers thoughts on Margaret Thatcher while shopping for pearl-snap shirts in Calgary

http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/...ts-in-calgary/

“I was fortunate enough to be doing a gig in Belfast on the night Thatcher resigned and the cheers of celebration are still ringing in my ears. Now, seven times zones away, the streets of Calgary, Alberta seemed strangely calm at the news of her passing.That was until I wandered into a western outfitters, looking for pearl-snap shirts. The two women who worked there were both from Essex and as soon as they heard my accent we fell into to discussing the ignominy that she and her followers heaped upon our beloved county. I bought a couple of shirts and put the two women on the guest list for the show tonight.”

A little while later, he added:

“This is not a time for celebration. The death of Margaret Thatcher is nothing more than a salient reminder of how Britain got into the mess that we are in today. Of why ordinary working people are no longer able to earn enough from one job to support a family; of why there is a shortage of decent affordable housing; of why domestic growth is driven by credit, not by real incomes; of why tax-payers are forced to top up wages; of why a spiteful government seeks to penalise the poor for having an extra bedroom; of why Rupert Murdoch became so powerful; of why cynicism and greed became the hallmarks of our society.

Raising a glass to the death of an infirm old lady changes none of this. The only real antidote to cynicism is activism. Don’t celebrate – organise!”

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Reaper

I was tempted to go see Billy Bragg last night just to see what he would say about her during the show.

He basically said all the same things that were in the Herald article.

He did start the show with a clip of "Ding Dong, The Witch Is Dead" which is apparently rising on the British charts.

[NBC]

nm

[Locke]

Originally Posted by troutman

Raising a glass to the death of an infirm old lady changes none of this. The only real antidote to cynicism is activism. Don’t celebrate – organise!”

I hate when celebrities say this.

Shut up. They have vastly more influence than I do. Quit telling me to organize and you do something.

"Quick, to the barricades!!"

[Cowperson]

Nice column by David Ignatius in the Washington Post this morning on Margaret Thatcher, transformational figure, and the emergence of the British middle class in her time.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z2

Cowperson

[Puppet Guy]

Originally Posted by troutman

Oh, Morrissey!

Morrissey Attacks 'Barbaric' Former PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...?utm_hp_ref=uk

it's off topic, but I really wish Morrissey would shut the hell up.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Puppet Guy

it's off topic, but I really wish Morrissey would shut the hell up.

dont we all, overrated in his prime, hasn't aged well.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

dont we all, overrated in his prime, hasn't aged well.

quoted for truth

[Addick]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Nice column by David Ignatius in the Washington Post this morning on Margaret Thatcher, transformational figure, and the emergence of the British middle class in her time.

Really?

[nik-]

More like increasing the gap between the poor and the existing middle class so the middle class could be more easily defined?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Locke

I hate when celebrities say this.

Shut up. They have vastly more influence than I do. Quit telling me to organize and you do something.

"Quick, to the barricades!!"

You don't think Billy Bragg "walks the walk"?