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Old 03-28-2013, 07:31 AM   #61
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I'm excited to see them play either with the heat this year (Hanowski), or at development camp this summer!
We can't hate on them because we don't view them as a good enough return on iggy...it's not their fault they were included in such an important trade.
No reason we won't see Hanowski in the next few weeks. He's 22, ready to go pro. Either on an ELC with the bigs in YYC or on an ATC with the Heat.

That's a bonus in this trade, a pro ready player, a guy a couple years away, and a longer term project (as most late first rounders tend to be!)

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Old 03-28-2013, 07:32 AM   #62
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What would you rather have? A riskier homerun type of pick, or a couple of bottom 6 players?
A first round pick that isn't conditional.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:44 AM   #63
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Agostino

http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2010/6/1...ospect-profile

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All of those goals, points, and wins; and what gets singled out? His defense. His defending was praised. That's very heartening to read from both the player and the coach, in my opinion. It shows that dominating at high school apparently hasn't gone to his head.
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Risk-Reward Analysis: Risk = 4/5 Reward = 4/5

NHL Potential: Offensive, goal-scoring forward

Fantasy Hockey Potential: Offensive = 8/10 Defensive = 5.5/10
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:50 AM   #64
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Now watch Agostini not sign with us
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:52 AM   #65
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Jankowski, Hanowski, Baertski, Gaudreauski
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:57 AM   #66
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It's not like these 2 prospects are plugs, they're skilled and putting up good number in the NCAA. They've progressed.

Example, if they weren't drafted and UFAs right now there would be teams after them.

Looking for forward to see what they can do Heat's season at the end, sign em Feaster.
That's a good point.. if they were undrafted everyone would be jumping all over themselves to sign them.

Still not a great return.. but when the player is picking the team he goes to there isn't much you can do. Better than nothing.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:02 AM   #67
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Baertski, Gaudreauski
No. No. It has...it has to have a 'ski' at the end of it, otherwise, where's the challenge? You know? If there's no 'ski' at the end of the root word, then we would just be idiots sayin' nonsense.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:52 AM   #69
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Mike Morreale ‏@mikemorrealeNHL 2s By the way, newest Flame Ben Hanowski is the most prolific scorer in Minnesota high school history. Had 196-209-405 at Little Falls HS (Mn)
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Mike Morreale ‏@mikemorrealeNHL 2s By the way, newest Flame Ben Hanowski is the most prolific scorer in Minnesota high school history. Had 196-209-405 at Little Falls HS (Mn)
Him and Jankowski will be best buds.
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Mike Morreale ‏@mikemorrealeNHL 2s By the way, newest Flame Ben Hanowski is the most prolific scorer in Minnesota high school history. Had 196-209-405 at Little Falls HS (Mn)

That's all well and good but means nothing going into the NHL. Hope he makes the team
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I wish these young guys the best of luck and look forward to seeing them in action.

Here's Aggy's next game:

West Regional, March 29-30
Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, Mich.
Friday, March 29
2 p.m. ET
No. 1 Minnesota (26-8-5) vs. No. 4 Yale (18-12-3)

Here's Hankowski's next game:

Midwest Regional, March 30-31
Huntington Center, Toledo, Ohio

Saturday, March 30
1:30 p.m. ET
No. 1 Notre Dame (25-12-3) vs. No. 4 St. Cloud State (23-15-1)
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:38 AM   #73
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That's all well and good but means nothing going into the NHL. Hope he makes the team
The other NHL'er on the list of all-time Minnesota High School scorers is TJ Oshie.

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Hanowski - 117gp 196g 209a
Oshie - 93gp 104g 137a

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Hanowski - 153gp 61g 50a
Oshie - 129gp 59g 83a


Hanowski clearly doesn't have Oshie's college stats, so probably we're looking at TJ Oshie as the ceiling for him with the likelihood that he's not gonna end up being as good. Agostino appears to be the better prospect, so if we end up with two players, one slightly better than TJ Oshie, one slightly worse, and let's get crazy and say Nicolas Petan with that 1st round pick that's some pretty solid 2nd line/3rd line depth.

That, of course, is the absolute best-case scenario.
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If the trade had involved two 2nd or 3rds fans would be all over it. We get two equivalent picks, and the trade is a disaster. People highly overate both picks and prospects. These are decent prospects that will fit into Calgary's top 10.
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The other NHL'er on the list of all-time Minnesota High School scorers is TJ Oshie.

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Hanowski - 117gp 196g 209a
Oshie - 93gp 104g 137a

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Hanowski - 153gp 61g 50a
Oshie - 129gp 59g 83a


Hanowski clearly doesn't have Oshie's college stats, so probably we're looking at TJ Oshie as the ceiling for him with the likelihood that he's not gonna end up being as good. Agostino appears to be the better prospect, so if we end up with two players, one slightly better than TJ Oshie, one slightly worse, and let's get crazy and say Nicolas Petan with that 1st round pick that's some pretty solid 2nd line/3rd line depth.

That, of course, is the absolute best-case scenario.
I also hope we can get Nicolas Petan with that late 1st.

IMO he would be a top 10 pick if he was 6'0" opposed to 5'9".
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:32 AM   #76
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So what's the best we can hope for out of either of these kids?

David Moss type players?

Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I sure hope the Flames hit a home run with the first rounder.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:35 AM   #77
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So Iginla for a 1st, 3rd, and a 4th in terms of picks?
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:36 AM   #78
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If the trade had involved two 2nd or 3rds fans would be all over it. We get two equivalent picks, and the trade is a disaster. People highly overate both picks and prospects. These are decent prospects that will fit into Calgary's top 10.
That is a good point. Both of these players have progressed and are probably 2nd round equivalents.

You are basically getting a 1st and a couple 2nds or a 1st a 2nd and a 3rd.

And they are more developed (and thus less risky).

Flip side is, less lottery-type upside
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:40 AM   #79
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If the trade had involved two 2nd or 3rds fans would be all over it. We get two equivalent picks, and the trade is a disaster. People highly overate both picks and prospects. These are decent prospects that will fit into Calgary's top 10.
I think that is just stings that if it was done a few days earlier we could have had Joe Morrow.

Also, what are the chances Agostino doesn't sign with the Flames? I wouldn't want to if I was him, but I have no idea if other teams have an interest in him.
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If Iginla is back in a few months then I welcome them then. If Iginla is gone for good then they might as well be wearing Canucks jerseys. Would have been a lot easier welcoming J. Morrow and Feaster really dropped the ball since I am sure the Pens view B. Morrow as a potential rental too.
To whom did you speak to be "sure" of this? Just curious who your source is...
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