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Originally Posted by neo45
He inherited a team with tons of young talent ready to break out. Ownership wanted Nonis to trade some of that talent for older players and Nonis decided not to. Cost him his job when they missed the playoffs but set Gillis up nicely.
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Nonis traded second round picks and players away like they were candy... well maybe in Nonis's cases carrots - he wouldn't trade candy. Nonis did nothing to develop the farm team, he held onto players long past their expiry date as was the case with the west coast express years. He made one amazing trade to get Luongo for Bertuzzi though. Past that he wasted a lot of second round picks on the like of Taylor Pyatt, Bryan Smolinski, Mika Noronen, Keith Carney, and Eric Weinrich.
His drafting was subpar at best (as is Gillis's) but I think of drafting as more of an indication of quality of scouting staff than the general manager.
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Those are pretty good moves, but also pretty unspectacular moves. The Erhoff trade is a robbery
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Yeah the Ehrhoff trade was a #2 offensive defenseman with reasonable contract for an ECHL at best scrub.
The Sedins being signed for what they were signed for is an amazing deal.
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Most of those moves are bad moves, or at the best debatable. Malhotra was a terrible signing, as was Sundin, and Lapierre helped turn the refs against the team permanently for his antics.
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Malholtra was a bad signing in the long term but only because of a puck to the eye, before that he was the best defensive center on the team and one of the best in the league. There was even some moderate rumblings of him being a Selke nominee due to his pure defensive work - something that never happens now that it is a guy who can score goals and not suck in his own end award.
Sundin was good for the team, they needed a good leader and someone to help the team, didn't work out in terms of immediate success Kesler and Sedin have said that him being around has helped them grow as players, so I can't argue with that.
Lapierre was good in 2011 in the playoffs and is an annoying player to play against, defensively responsible, cheap, and can score the occasional goal... I think he cost a 4th round pick at the deadline, that is as good a deal as you will find at the time. Agreed about the diving, it can get pretty bad.
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The Garrison contract will be on that list as well, surprised you didn't mention the Luongo contract because it is an albatross. His draft picks have also been meh
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I don't mind Garrison, he is a good defenseman, good positionally, and not noticeable for any gaffes and that is good enough for me.
The Luongo contract is bad, I will put that in that category for sure.
Draft wise - too soon to say but I really do think that lies more with the scouting and luck than with the GM.
